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1724 Austria 3 Kreuzer

 
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 Posted 01/12/2021  11:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
The shop where I got this evidently had qualms about its authenticity. It didn't set off any alarms for me, however, so I picked it up on the cheap as part of a group of coins. The diameter varies from 21.3 to 22.2 mm, with the weight coming in at 1.5 grams (coin exhibits minimal thickness). These values are in reasonably good agreement with the published specifications. However, I can see that the engraving style isn't perfectly consistent with the example shown here: https://en.ucoin.net/coin/austria-3...8/?tid=86364

What do you think? Phony?





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01/13/2021 07:22 am
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 Posted 01/13/2021  02:39 am  Show Profile   Check norantyki's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add norantyki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks good to me - style, flan, strike, and luster are all consistent with a high grade 18thc 3kr. The discrepancies that you are seeing may be the result of the dies being hand engraved. Can we get a photo of the edge, just to be certain?
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01/13/2021 02:40 am
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 Posted 01/13/2021  07:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not much edge on a 3K coin

I agree it looks good, and that some year-to-year differences are expected.

Also, see my post from yesterday on a 1739 3 K coin from the same part of Europe, with the same question.
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01/13/2021 07:55 am
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 Posted 01/13/2021  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Can we get a photo of the edge, just to be certain?


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Not much edge on a 3K coin

Yes, as I said at the beginning, this is a very lean flan. Not much there to assess.



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 Posted 01/14/2021  02:26 am  Show Profile   Check norantyki's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add norantyki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@tdziemia, @Lucky_Cuss, I wanted to see the edge, as there are restrikes from the late 50s/ early 60s on thicker flans (sometimes slightly, sometimes on modern-style regular flans), and on in variety of metals. This is 100% an original coin.
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Edited by norantyki
01/14/2021 02:29 am
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 Posted 01/14/2021  07:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@norantyki,thanks for that helpful clarification.

When I receive the coin I posted here: http://goccf.com/t/390368 I will take a look at the edge and add some additional photos. The obverse photo on that coin looks a little too sharp to me, though the reverse looks OK. And I don't know why a restrike would have what look like faint adjustment marks, unless someone was trying to make the restrike look like an original.
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 Posted 01/14/2021  09:11 am  Show Profile   Check norantyki's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add norantyki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@tdziemia, let me know when you do - the flan of yours looks a little too regular. That being said, could just be an exceptional survivor...
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