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George V Coin? I Can't Find Information About The Coin. (Id: Likely Jeweler's Copy)

 
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 Posted 01/25/2021  11:42 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Bubuto to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello, I hope I hit the right section for the topic. I want to ask if you can give me a little more info about this coin. I checked the coin in a goldsmith's workshop and it corresponds to 22 carats of gold. The initials of the coin are found on the Internet. Some are on the collar of george V and others are up to a year for the back of the coin. My coin has no initials except for a small letter "a" under the portrait of George V and a small inscription 21k behind the ear of the portrait. I also attach photos. I can ask for information about the origin of the coin due to the difference in the vision of those in the internet.

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 Posted 01/25/2021  11:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a fantasy piece.



to the CCF!
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 Posted 01/25/2021  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Looks like a fantasy piece.

I'm inclined to agree.

Did your goldsmith actually XRF it, or just look up the correct gold content for a sovereign? I've never heard of a fantasy piece being labeled as less pure than it actually is.
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 Posted 01/25/2021  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bubuto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Zlatara did the test in front of me with a swab and acid. Confirm it is 22 carats
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 Posted 01/25/2021  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's not a genuine Sovereign.
Can't say if it is solid gold or a gold plated fantasy or souvenir coin.
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 Posted 01/25/2021  1:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bubuto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is not gilded, solid gold is 22 carats.
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 Posted 01/25/2021  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF. Weight? Diameter?
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 Posted 01/25/2021  2:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bubuto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Diameter 22.05 weight 7.88gr
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 Posted 01/25/2021  3:50 pm  Show Profile   Check alganbagerap's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add alganbagerap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sounds like a jeweler's copy. Stamped 22k to show that it's not official coinage.
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 Posted 01/25/2021  3:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Diameter 22.05 weight 7.88gr

Pretty close to the real deal.


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Sounds like a jeweler's copy. Stamped 22k to show that it's not official coinage.

You may well be right, but why does the stamp say 21K?
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 Posted 01/26/2021  01:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bubuto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What do you think is the value of this coin?
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 Posted 01/26/2021  04:09 am  Show Profile   Check PaddyB's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add PaddyB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely a Middle Eastern copy from the 1920s or 30s. The stamp is 21K and if that is right, that makes sense. Genuine sovereigns are made at 22K - the Middle Eastern bullion copies are often at slightly less, and an honest replica should be marked with the actual gold content. I have seen them stamped 21k many times before.
The jewellers acid test would not be able to distinguish between 21K and 22K as they are too close in content. 7.88g is also slightly down on the correct weight.
Provided it is 21K gold, the current bullion value is $411 or 301 or EUR338, but any jeweller will offer you less than that to allow for scrappage cost and their profit.
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 Posted 01/26/2021  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pure gold is 24 carat, not 22 carat. 22 carat is 0.916 gold which is sensible as pure gold is very soft and gold coins usually had silver or copper as a hardening agent.

Of course bullion is 99.9% etc, but it was not meant for circulation like gold coins of the past were.
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