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New Way To Make Overlays For The Newer Coins

 
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 Posted 02/17/2021  7:40 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Through the years, I've made my overlays that is the most helpful way. In the past they looked like this:


While these were easier to do, they kind of made it a bit muddled in the center where everything was needing to be seen. So I tried to remove the clutter in center, because the centers of the devices are the most important. Next to the bust area and the outer areas of the reverse designs. So I tried to make them a bit better:

Adding a little color to enhance the details a bit better.

The color help a little bit more and more:





Altering the rotated and flipped (the overlay) with the only color different. Well always trying to make them even better, I tried using proof coins to get a better set of images:

I reduced the design down to the basics, which took a lot more time erasing some areas.









But with the newer design of quarters, the proof coins are made differently now. They frosting on them seem too strong and on an overlay they looked too weak. So I'm trying something different now. Using a business strike coin, with the overlay of a proof coin. (The design is the same on both, just different finishes added during the strike process. But I can color the proof ones darker. So what doe you think?




Let me know if you have any other suggestions.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

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 Posted 02/17/2021  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CentSation to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dam*. Nice - You put a lot of work into this [as with all your other illustrations].

Thank you.
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 Posted 02/17/2021  8:20 pm  Show Profile   Check Kloccwork419's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Kloccwork419 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like the cent most. Looks really good. That red pops
The blue and purple on the quarters too
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 Posted 02/17/2021  11:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can be a useful technique to assist with the investigation of opposite side ghosting.

Same side overlaying would also be a powerful tool in die variation investigations, and the detection of counterfeit and fake coins.
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Also where on the other side to look for damage pushing outwards on a coin. Why is that helpful? If it doesn't push out, then it could be a mint error, on a struck through coin.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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Richard S. Cooper
Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 02/19/2021  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
New one I made today for a discussion on a quarter, that turns out to have been damaged. The overlay helped solve the issue:



The unique thing is the erasing off the unwanted areas is a lot quicker when I use a Business strike die and a Proof die. The proof die keeps the color better and the shiny areas are easier erase. Cuts the time in half or more.
Richard S. Cooper
Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 02/19/2021  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Durwood to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good job, coop. Very useful.
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 Posted 02/19/2021  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Check Yokozuna's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's my latest overlay.

Click the picture for a larger image


@coop What percentage of transparency do you use on the top layer? Is it a set amount or do you vary it by each coin?
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 Posted 02/19/2021  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Normal base image. Layer at 50%. The newer proofs with the laser cameos save a lot of time building the layers. Erase the shiny parts and keeps the small letters easily. Erase the centers and your done.
Richard S. Cooper
Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 02/19/2021  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Check Yokozuna's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
coop said...

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Normal base image. Layer at 50%. The newer proofs with the laser cameos save a lot of time building the layers. Erase the shiny parts and keeps the small letters easily. Erase the centers and your done.

Fantastic! Thanks for the information!
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 Posted 02/19/2021  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does it seem that there are few die clashes, on the new coins?
Richard S. Cooper
Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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