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Can Anyone Give Me Info On This Coin (Id: China, Provincial Kiangnan, 1902 Ad)

 
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 Posted 03/12/2021  09:28 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add dizzie to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi, Can anyone provide a date for this coin? TIA

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 Posted 03/12/2021  09:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF. Not my area but it looks like a coin that is faked a lot. Wait for a pro to chime in.
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Thank you
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 Posted 03/12/2021  1:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Thank you Albert
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 Posted 03/13/2021  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dizzie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ Albert Can you tell if this a fake from the inscriptions? TIA
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@jbuck thank you
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 Posted 03/14/2021  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The top picture was upside down, so I took the liberty and rotate it the right way, not an expert of these at all.
At least the translation of the province is correct.
Do you have the weight? And does it stick to magnet? Early fake one sticks to magnet.


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 Posted 03/14/2021  3:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just looking at the photos as they are, it looks genuine to me.
Correctly oriented with well focused and well lighted pictures would help.
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 Posted 03/15/2021  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dizzie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you everyone here are some better pictures
weight is 26.7 g and does not react to a magnet





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 Posted 03/15/2021  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is the sort of case where it's difficult online.
In hand, I'd say just what it is- but I don't have it in hand.
Your reported weight is a bit high. It should be 25.7g, but I'll allow for error.
Can you measure it to see if it is 2mm thick and 39mm diameter?
It's possible, if it's genuine, it could be valued and a couple hundred dollars.
Therefore, it's worth a look by an experienced person to see if it's silver or not.
As a general rule, most fakes of these coins are ballpark 10 to 20% below proper weight.
There are cases where the weight is correct coming from certain fakers, but specific gravity tests reveal the alloy is not coin silver.
A genuine silver coin does react to a magnet, but not in a common or ordinary way. It's called diamagnetic. If you suspend a very strong N52 magnet and approach it with the coin, it will tend to "push away" the magnet. If you can take the coin to an honest and knowing coin dealer, they may help. But if you like adventure and want to solve your own mysteries, then go online to buy some small very strong N-52 magnets. Here's what will happen: If you place a small magnet on the coin it will react three ways: 1) it will stick, 2) it will slide off readily when tilted, or 3) it will slowly drag over the coin when tilted. If you have a suspended magnet and slowly approach the magnet with the coin in hand, it will tend to oppose. Approach until contact and push a bit more then release allowing the magnet to swing. Quickly place the coin in it's path and will act as a buffer, thus stopping the magnet in it's swing. The "ice test" can be a useful home test for silver. I could make some example videos to demonstrate, but I just don't know how you could view them.
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 Posted 04/12/2021  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Check living-in-the-past's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add living-in-the-past to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree that it's difficult to determine authenticity via scans, but in my opion I think your coin has a good chance at being authentic. If real, your coin is similar to this one: https://www.NGCcoin.com/price-guide...duid-1289661

Your coin exhibits several chop marks on the non-dragon side of the coin. They appear to be legitimate to me as well. More on chop marks can be found here: https://coinweek.com/featured-news/...a-1600-1935/

Hope this helps.

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 Posted 04/13/2021  08:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dizzie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@living-in-the-past thanks to everyone who has provided information. It is really appreciated,you are a great bunch of people
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 Posted 04/14/2021  8:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It definitely looks genuine.

Would grade as details but this would be easily a hundred+ dollar coin even in this condition.
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