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Three Cent Silver New Purchase. Thoughts Please. MS Grade?

 
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 Posted 03/18/2021  9:27 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jaberwoke to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Just purchased and on the way.
I love all the strikethroughs/errors and the unique toning.
Someone didn't clean his stamping station very well!
Your comments are appreciated. Mid MS Grade?


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 Posted 03/18/2021  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS62, possibly 63. That reverse stripe really hurts the eye appeal and on a borderline coin would likely end up netting it down.
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 Posted 03/18/2021  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could be a jewelry piece removed from pin?

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 Posted 03/18/2021  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll say AU-58 with below-average eye appeal.
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 Posted 03/18/2021  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Appears heavily scratched to me. No grade.
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 Posted 03/18/2021  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PNWType to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think this could go low MS, but that reverse stripe does look like it hides damage where it crosses the III.

However, that ghosted star on the reverse due to a clash is super awesome! I can almost make out the entire star on the reverse!
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 Posted 03/19/2021  12:54 am  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it could hit the uncirculated range, low end like MS60 or 61, 62 - but no higher, something messed with the reverse though, not sure if it's damage or planchet flaw, the coloration makes it suspicious it wasn't put on to hide some sort of fooling around with it.

The coin has amazing clashing too. I rarely see them with a clash that is so well defined as that one.
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 Posted 03/19/2021  04:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't think it makes MS grade. I think the clash is kinda common on these. Looks like maybe an old cleaning? Not my area though. I do not see any strike throughs.Also looks like a MDS/LDS? If you don't mind sharing what you paid?
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 Posted 03/19/2021  08:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Because the differential toning is associated with a metal planchet error, I really don't thing that this sort of toning will have any negative effect on the value at all, and to some eyes, may well increase the value by a small amount.
As with most toning, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I don't normally like toning, but I do in this case, because it brings attention to the error.

Interestingly, a faint image of the star on the obverse can be seen on the reverse, so definitely this coin has two errors!
Perhaps four errors, with the metal flow away from the star point at 4 o'clock, and maybe a tiny strike through error at the pit of the star arms at 11 o'clock.

Lucky you!

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 Posted 03/19/2021  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Something is seriously wrong with the numeral 3. It looks like solder buildup to me, which seems related to the scorched look of the dark streak that runs across the possible solder buildup.
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 Posted 03/19/2021  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe it's a planchet flaw classic coins, the flaw is likely an improper mix of copper in the silver. The streak is from said copper tarnishing quicker than the rest of the coin.
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 Posted 03/21/2021  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Adam.
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 Posted 03/30/2021  8:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jaberwoke to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I finally have the coin in hand and thought I'd finalize my observations of this little beauty. Thank you all for your comments and yes... "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". And... like having an English Bull Dog as a pet... sometimes ugly is wonderful and fun. I just wish the defects were visible to the eye when "in hand".

Obverse:

1. Metal streaks 4 o'clock tip of star makes it look like a "shooting star"!

2. Pushed through stamping of reverse details at 8 o'clock of 2 domes and a line from the edge of the reverse triangle.

Reverse:

1. Inside "C" above III: top stamp through of obverse star outline.

2. Inside "C" between border of "C" and III: possible stamp through of obverse star

3. Diagonal swirl of toning across entire reverse caused by embeded silver granuals/dust which held moisture and caused toning.

4. Possible silver granules/debris pressed in each letter of III and trailing to upper right 2 o'clock. Coincides with obverse metal streaks at 4 o'clock position on star.

5. Only evident when held at an angle is another shard of debris pressed into the field just below the third "I" in the numeral "III". The edges of it blend into the field so aren't real noticeable in the photos.

Note: Slight strike offset evident on both sides.

Grade comments:

Sharp strike (obverse and reverse) without distortion of Union emblem on obverse. Reverse shows well defined stars and edge outline of the "C".

Finally, in hand, it appears to have a mint cartwheel but being so small... very hard to judge.

So, again, thanks for your comments and opinions. I hope we all learned just a bit more about this coin series and the manufacturing defects possible during the manufacture of such small coins and the issues in grading them.
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