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Identification Please And Whether It Is A Replica Or Not?

 
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 Posted 04/06/2021  09:36 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add irishgold to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

Hi,
I received this coin as a gift a few years ago. I thinks it's a medieval Charles I from Austria (1346-1370).
I used to have a silver equivalent as well but it was lost, I remember seeing the exact same set was sold for around 20000. So if anyone has any insight? I haven't got a valuation for it yet from any bodies.

Thanks.







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 Posted 04/06/2021  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Knowing nothing about it at all, I'd have to say it just doesn't look old.



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 Posted 04/06/2021  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Drewids fire to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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 Posted 04/06/2021  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add irishgold to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does it look like a new cast or maybe very well preserved?
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 Posted 04/06/2021  11:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This looks like a modern replica. Sorry!
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 Posted 04/06/2021  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Check echizento's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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I can not comment if genuine or not. If genuine the condition is outstanding.
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 Posted 04/06/2021  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add irishgold to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the replies. Thinking of sending it to the NGC.
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 Posted 04/07/2021  12:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cdngmt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know its late to chime in ....but if it means anything, the images seem to show the fakes as being well centered whereaas the real coins are not. Yours seems well centered; so I concur with the majority that its (likely) fake
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 Posted 04/07/2021  05:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erafjel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What you have is a nice looking replica.

I can point to three things that distinguish this coin from a genuine one:
1. It is perfectly circular. Medieval hammered coins are not. They are manually cut out from sheets of metal and then hammered with great force, inevitably leading to an uneven shape.
2. The lettering is completely even and regular, each letter being flat and all letters raised the same amount above the surface of the coin. In a die for a medieval coin, the letters are manually engraved or punched, resulting in slightly varying depth across the recess for a letter and differences in depths between letters. Any unevenness in how the hammer hits the flan will add to these irregularities.
3. The fine-grained surface points to the coin being plated rather than of solid gold.
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 Posted 04/07/2021  07:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent explanation. Money spent at NGC would be wasted.

Here is a recent sale of an authentic coin (in lower condition than the one posted by @drewid):
https://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotv...c1014385662a

There are some ugly replicas out there, but this one is very attractive, with a lot of attention to detail like authentic representation of gothic lettering of the era, etc.
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 Posted 04/07/2021  10:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add irishgold to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see, I had thought myself about the flawlessness of the coin but I guess I was just hoping it would be worth something.

Thanks for the insight
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