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2020 "Flying Loon" Silver Dollar.feedback?

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I got the latest (2021 #7) RCM new release pamphlet in the mail yesterday, and saw an item I may/may-not be interested in, and am looking for opinions.

Page eleven features the 2020 $1 fine silver "Flying Loon" dollar; and it's priced at $630CAD. First off, I can't understand why it's dated as a 2020, unless they planned on minting it last year but couldn't due to you-know-what. The price seems (to me) outstandingly high. BTW, 59.5g of fine (99.99%) silver, and is 50mm wide.
It IS a silver dollar, but do I NEED to buy it to have a complete Canadian Silver Dollar set? Being two ounces of silver is it more of a 'fluke' coin?
I'm hoping you intelligent people out there can save me $630 that I'd rather use for food.
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 Posted 06/29/2021  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1935-1967 silver dollars 23.33 grams 36.00 mm

No you don't need to buy it to have a complete Canadian Silver Dollar set. I wouldn't put this coin in that category.

You probably won't be able to buy it for that price now, as it is all sold out by now.
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 Posted 06/29/2021  3:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add atticguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks jimper, but I should have stated the Proof/Specimen Silver Dollar Set.
I just started collecting the circulated Canadian silver dollars late last year, and have only got around 1/3rd of them so far, but as for the post 1970 dollars I think I only need two more (or three if I include this new one). And considering how this "Flying Loon" was made, it definitely won't fit into the same folder as the rest.
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Don't think you missed out recently. I called when I got my flyer from the mint. It arrived before my "advance notice email" by almost a week.... and I attempted to buy the 2020 Flying Loon.... "Sorry, it sold out. " - I have no idea when it was originally 'released' for prebooking, but after missing the Avro Arrow last month by only minutes, I was way ahead of the release this time, and still no luck.
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@atticguy: I definitely wouldn't consider this 2020 piece to be a "must have" for a Canadian silver dollar collection. It is a standalone novelty piece, IMO, and not needed for a complete SD collection.

Of course, I'm on record here regarding my focus on 36 mm silver dollars, so it was easy for me to dismiss this one for my personal collection. I do include the 1997 SD, however.



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commems, Thanks for your view, you saved me money I don't really have. :)

BTW, what did you end up doing with the two Peace dollars? SD or not-SD?
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BTW, what did you end up doing with the two Peace dollars? SD or not-SD?

I purchased one of the 2020 coins for my SD collection at the time of its release. I haven't yet pulled the trigger on the 2021. I realize that it has a different finish vs. the 2020, but I have a nagging suspicion that the R C M is looking to create a new, ongoing, annual SD series with the design and that's something in which I'm not very interested.

I'm waiting the Mint out at this point...waiting to see if they release another version dated 2022.


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 Posted 06/30/2021  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vonigohcr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I definitely wouldn't consider this 2020 piece to be a "must have" for a Canadian silver dollar collection.



I think given the arbitrary and capricious nature of RCM releases, you need to define "collections" with more than just value and metal. If you are to simply say "Silver Dollar" then you get to all of the circulation coins from 1935-1967 and the proof/specimen/BU releases from 1971 to date in the 36mm form factor. But beyond that... even if you exclude the "Loon" format, you have the 2 ounce series, mostly the "Renewed Dollar" series but also the Flying Loon you note (54 & 50mm), the Piedfort & 5oz "Matthew" from 2019 (34 & 65.25mm), The UHR Peace dollars, the 5oz "Big Dollar" series included in the Big coin sets from 2015 - 2019 (65.25mm) and finally the $1 - 1/20oz Maple Leaf dollars included as part of many maple leaf fractional sets that are only 16mm.

I think weight is less of a discriminator than form factor... the 36mm dollar has seen silver purities ranging from 99.99% to Sterling (92.5%) to 50%. @commems has done a good job of defining his criteria at 36mm... specifically excluding the 38mm 2 loons coin from 2012.

Personally, I am stuck in this quandary with the $100 Gold. I have a collection that dates from 1976.. all 27mm in diameter (Except for the 25mm 1976 22Kt version but it is close enough). Purity has ranged from 22K to 14K until this year when the RCM changed to 99.99% but consequently changed the form factor to 20mm. I have the 2020 coin and I am on the fence right now whether I start a new $100 series but the 27mm $100 series has ended at 51 coins.
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I agree with the comments above and also focus on the standard 36mm SDs (i.e. pretty much the same way as Charlton catalogues are organized).

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Very nice piece actually :)
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