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Can Anyone Help Me With This 1984 Penny

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 Posted 07/30/2021  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Exactly what help would you like.
Unless I'm missing something, all I see is a
regular 1984 CENT with a stain on it.
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It's not a stain trust me
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 Posted 07/30/2021  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It's not a stain trust me

Then please tell what you think it is.
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 Posted 07/30/2021  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It does look like a stain unless you can elaborate for us.
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 Posted 07/30/2021  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eagle_Eye to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi.
I see a potential clash in the tenth bay.
Looks like a S, but it could be just a stain.

There is a long scratch or die crack running from the rim between the T E of United and ending at the rim at the O of One.

A large reverse stain and an ugly fingerprint on the obverse.
That's what I see from your pictures.

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It doesn't peel or rub off.
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It doesn't peel or rub off.


A stain does not peel off or rub off. That's why it's called a stain.
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Who's on first?
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 Posted 07/30/2021  6:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Shady83 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay so explain the "stain" I'm new to all this
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 Posted 07/30/2021  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I see a potential clash in the tenth bay.
Looks like a S, but it could be just a stain.

There is no s in the other side of the coin there so it cannot be a die clash.

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There is a long scratch or die crack running from the rim between the T E of United and ending at the rim at the O of One.

That is not a crack from what I can see. It looks like a PMD coin scratch.
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 Posted 07/30/2021  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Even soda and coffee can create a stain. It alters the color on the affected area. If doesn't remove the plating, just discolors the plating. The weak 'S' on States is common. Between having to strike up so much on metal on the obverse bust area of the shoulder, if the planchet is even the slightest amount short on metal it can leave those areas with thinner devices.

Common to see this on coins, so there is no premium for this. Note these weakened devices, but not the tops of these devices as they are full on the area. That is the area where less of the metal is not needed on that area of the strike up of the bust.
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Copper is a highly reactive metal. Any number of chemicals and substances can discolor and tone copper. Once it has toned, the surfaces can never be returned to original red copper color of an uncirculated strike. This coin may have had a soda or other caustic liquid come in contact with the reverse.
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 Posted 07/30/2021  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Environmental or chemical stain on reverse and finger prints covering the obverse.
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TruSt me, there is a S on the obverse.
If you look closer, the "scratch" runs under the T of united, which is actually on top as the device is incuse on the die so it can be raised on the coin.
A deep crack would show the crack on the T.

Read up on floating die clashes.

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