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Mystery Coin - F R ? (Id: 17th Century Reckheim Liard)

 
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 Posted 09/12/2021  06:07 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CooperT to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello, my son found this coin in a collection handed down to him by his grandfather. We haven't been able to find anything like it online despite the very distinctive F R, so wondering if it might be a toy. Would greatly appreciate any feedback

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 Posted 09/12/2021  08:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
( I'm no pro, it's just my humble opinion )
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 Posted 09/12/2021  3:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I posted this better image to help identify the coin.
It's clear that there is a crown over a coat of arms having what some call a rampant lion as well has having three diagonal cubes.
Someone should be able to ID this piece.

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 Posted 09/12/2021  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add David Graham to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


You will have a better chance of an ID if you post the diameter and weight as well as pics.
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 Posted 09/12/2021  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CooperT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin is 24-25 mm in diameter. I don't have scales that can accurately measure the weight, but my kitchen scale says 2g (it is likely less).
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 Posted 09/13/2021  11:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The surrounding legend doesn't seem to match, so it might be a different variant, but the devices match perfectly, so it's probably the same guy: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces187126.html

Reckheim (?), Ferdinand d'Aspremont-Lynden (?), liard. I couldn't find a lot of pictures of those, so I can't tell if it could be anything else.
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 Posted 09/13/2021  2:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CooperT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! That must be it! Thank you so much january1may & everyone else who contributed - my son is totally hooked on coin collecting now! &
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 Posted 09/14/2021  03:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is indeed the indicated coin, link given by january1may, but on the contrary of what's on numista, this coin was not issued by the prince-bishopry of Liege, but by its small neighbour, the county of Reckheim. This county, containing about 6 villages in nowadays belgian limburg, was part of the Holy Roman Empire and was not part of the prince-bishopry of Liege. The counts earned a lot of money issuing coins which were about look-a-likes of coins of the neighbouring countries (Liege, the Spanish Netherlands), but which were lighter in weight. Officially they were only legal tender in Reckheim, but many users of Liege or the Spanish netherlands didn't see the difference, so they circulated in those countries too, to the anger of the rulers of those countries.
Many varieties exist.
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 Posted 09/15/2021  07:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@bart, thanks for the recent IDs of the two coins from Reckheim and Gronsveld.

I'm a collector of early "Low Countries" coins, but these two places are outside my experience. Your comments remind me that there is always more to learn!
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 Posted 11/11/2021  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archeo1982 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to identify low countries copper coins I often use this Dutch website: http://duiten.nl/
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