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Countermarked Guatemalan 1 Peso 1894. Silver Or Not?

 
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 Posted 09/30/2021  01:45 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add zorosenpai to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I am looking to purchase this for my collection, but I'm not really sure if this is silver. Could someone help? The seller says it's magnetic which is the first giveaway that it might be a fake. But the coin looks too good to be a fake. Would appreciate if someone could help#128517;





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Australia
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 Posted 09/30/2021  03:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it is magnetic, it is fake. Nevertheless, it appears to have an excellent strike for a fake.
From the dark patches on the high points, this coin appears to be silver plated with much more base alloy for the core.

(My guess that this coin was put back into brief circulation for legitimate legal tender - for what I amount I have no idea.)** I stand to be corrected on this postulation).

Silver only alloys with iron in trace amounts, so this implies that there must be a significant amount of nickel and copper in the alloy as well. The copper and nickel could have been sourced from existing melted down copper nickel coins. Nickel, which is also magnetic, readily alloys with iron, silver and copper, and also allows for the admixture of iron into the alloy.

Genuine (KM#475a) Brazil 1875 2000 Reis:- 0.7518 ounces Actual Silver Weight. Nominal weight of genuine original 25.5 grams, so coin pictured should be checked against this.
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09/30/2021 03:13 am
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 Posted 09/30/2021  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Albert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I added fill light, clarity & focus.
Just pictures alone, it looks no different than some of the poor quality Chinese fakes to me.
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 Posted 10/01/2021  03:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Forget that you know it's magnetic.

It's an obviously fake stamp just by appearance... on a host that, although remotely plausible as a Latin American crown of that period, is to my knowledge unknown with the Guatemala 1894 1/2 real stamp.

And yes, the host "coin" looks like a poor quality fake itself.

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But the coin looks too good to be a fake

If this is how you view this piece... you quite simply need to REALLY sharpen your game.

I don't understand how some people know enough to recognize a particular piece would be an enticing rarity... yet can't recognize it as obviously fake by its physical presentation. That's a dangerous setup for a buyer...
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