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1884 O Morgan Guess The Grade And Grading Company

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 Posted 12/04/2021  9:33 pm Show Profile   Check jacrispies's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Guess the grade! Don't get the PVC mixed up with chatter. Bonus points to anyone who guesses the grading company.
Hint: They are out of business.

**Ignore PVC, it is soaking in acetone as we speak! I am not looking for a details grade.**
How do you personally grade it? Not what you think the TPG gave it.

Thanks everyone!



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 Posted 12/04/2021  9:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm thinking MS-65 graded by ACG.

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 Posted 12/04/2021  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My call exactly.
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 Posted 12/04/2021  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like there is a round hole in the obverse by star 3. Unc details damaged.
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 Posted 12/04/2021  9:59 pm  Show Profile   Check jacrispies's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Looks like there is a round hole in the obverse by star 3.

Hahaha

Just to clarify, that is toning.
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 Posted 12/04/2021  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Toning in a perfectly round circle?
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 Posted 12/04/2021  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Check jacrispies's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Toning in a perfectly round circle?

Precisely. Similar to a carbon spot.
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 Posted 12/04/2021  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have seen many round oxidation spots on morgans. The are approximately but not exactly round and they fade in color as they move out to the edges. This hole is perfectly round and uniformly dark. The edges of the circle are sharly defined. Doesn't look like any oxidation spot I've seen before. Also looks like it is in the metal rather than the surface.
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 Posted 12/04/2021  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Surely you jest, sir. Surely you do not think this is hole.
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12/04/2021 10:15 pm
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 Posted 12/04/2021  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another thing is how are we supposed to guess the grading company by looking at a raw coin? Bizarre post.
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 Posted 12/04/2021  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The only thing bizarre about this thread is your suggestion that this toning spot is a a hole, which is comical.
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 Posted 12/04/2021  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess I didn't really understand the premise of this thread initially. You are not really asking what I think the grade of this coin is. You want me to guess what an unknown grading company that at some point in the past graded this coin gave as a grade and guess what that grading company was by looking at a raw coin.

I have no idea what an unknown company graded this coin at and I don't really care. I'm just grading this coin as I see it. I'm not sure what your disclaimer about you not wanting to hear a details grade is. Looks like you just want affirmation of what you think this coin's grade should be.

I think I wasted enough time in this silly thread.
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 Posted 12/04/2021  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Check jacrispies's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Bizarre post.

Not sure what makes you say this. First you are trying to convince me that my own coin has a hole in it. Now you try to discredit me by assuming I don't know what I am talking about.

I don't know why I am justifying myself, but I removed the coin from the acetone to take some close ups for numismatic student. I also didn't realize my garage lighting was so good, so I added more pics on the original post.

And I apologize if there if my wording created a misunderstanding. I changed the post to be more specific.


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I'm just grading this coin as I see it.

That's exactly what I am asking.

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12/04/2021 10:38 pm
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 Posted 12/04/2021  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Clearly that hole is not surface oxidation or toning as you called it earlier and has clearly eaten through the surface of the coin. Unc detail damaged.

You know when you dig a hole in your back yard, you don't have to dig all the way through to China for it to be a hole, right? Words have meaning and you should know what the meaning of the word 'hole' is.
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 Posted 12/04/2021  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your opinion as an experienced, wealthy collector of high-end US coins is always welcomed.

I simply disagree with your opinion that this coin has been punctured, which is clearly incorrect. It would be simple for your to acknowledge this.

But no, you choose to not reply and suggest the thread has been a waste of time for you. That says a lot about you.
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 Posted 12/04/2021  10:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've made my case. Did you look up what the word hole means in the dictionary?
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