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Certainly a carbon spot by the third star . This is a rather nice looking Mint State Coin . Fairly nice strike for an 1884O as well . I would be perfectly willing to call this MS63+
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That's good sharp picture there jacrispies, I believe that carbon spot toning can have quite a contrast between the silver color, so that's what I'm also seeing it here.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I think "hole" means you should be able to see through to the other side. I don't see the other side here.
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Please assume that there is no bickering rule on this forum, and kindly adhere to it, or people will start dropping faster than a Zimbabwe dollar. The spot does seem a little weird -- honestly it doesn't look natural to me, more like someone created it with the tip of a soldering iron -- but maybe not enough to warrant a details grade. I'd say MS 62. No holder provided to guess the TPG. IGS and ANI are some older TPGs I remember that aren't around any more.
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MS64 based on the garage shots and the spot on the 3rd left star is the result of a pin hole in the mylar window of a cardboard 2x2 prior to TPG encapsulation.
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Bedrock of the Community
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strike is quite nice for this year which can be weak so thats a plus. unbroken luster. small amount of cheek chatter. carbon spot distracting. reverse MS65, obverse MS63+. net at MS64
not sure why you are acetoning it. do you think that will remove the carbon spot? maybe its the lighting but I'm not seeing any PVC
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Excellent luster, and the reverse looks great. I think that carbon spot would hold it back to MS-64.
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Thanks for the replies. You can see light green goop over the entire coin in the first pair of photos. The second set of photos doesn't show acetone, that is after I removed it. The original TPG packaging had it held in a PVC flip. It is now back in the original packaging in a 2x2. The TPG label shows the carbon spot has been there since 1987... 
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Edited by jacrispies 12/05/2021 10:47 am
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If you know the carbon spot was there in 1987, you probably have an old ANACS photo certificate. I think they graded the obverse and reverse separately, so I'll change my guess to MS-63/65.
Edited by Zurie 12/05/2021 11:25 am
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Quote: strike is quite nice for this year which can be weak so thats a plus. unbroken luster. small amount of cheek chatter. carbon spot distracting. reverse MS65, obverse MS63+. net at MS64  No idea what a third-tier TPR would say on the grade. I can think of one basement slabber who would call it MS-66.
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ICG called it an MS64 I think it's not far from an MS64 myself, MS63++++ Carbon spot probably has no effect on grading.
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I just realized you said the grading company is now out of business, so it can't be ANACS. It might be IGA (Independent Grading Associates), which was in business in 1987 and included photos, with the coin in a vinyl pouch.
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Quote: I just realized you said the grading company is now out of business Opps, me too, as I said ICG and they are still around, maybe PCI?
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