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1847 Gothic Crown. How To Tell If Replica

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 Posted 12/10/2021  06:06 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add pgc to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Sorting through my late husbands 40 years collection of things I came across this 1847 Gothic crown mounted in a surround that allows you to swivel to view each side. I know nothing about coins but have tried researching it but find there are lots of replicas about. How do I tell if this is a replica or the real thing please.
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 Posted 12/10/2021  06:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to the CCF

You could always google an original 1847 crown and compare for discrepancies
or you can post a clear photo of both sides on this forum and there will be someone hear who can help you.
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 Posted 12/10/2021  07:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PaddyB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply



We really need to see pictures. Some are very obvious copies, some are given away by small details known to exist on fakes, and some need to be seen in hand by a coin expert.
Clear photos of both sides and the edge, along with weight if possible will get us closer.
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 Posted 12/10/2021  08:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
( I'm no pro, it's just my humble opinion )
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to the CCF!
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 Posted 12/10/2021  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Safaga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I too would like to see photos. So I can learn from the many knowledgeable participants on this site.
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 Posted 12/10/2021  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Check NumisRob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisRob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello and
Please also take photos of the edge lettering as this is often a giveaway if a coin is a forgery. Make sure at least one photo shows clearly the edge lettering with part of the reverse or obverse (heads or tails) adjacent to it.
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 Posted 12/16/2021  12:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pgc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hopefully these are the images of the Gothic Crown in question





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 Posted 12/16/2021  3:12 pm  Show Profile   Check NumisRob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisRob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nothing screams 'fake' to me. The coin has obviously been abused which will affect its numismatic value. I'd appreciate closer and clearer photos of the edge lettering.

Here is a section of the edge of my coin for comparison:
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 Posted 12/16/2021  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If that coin is real and it probably is, what a shame!

I would say its worn down to VF as well. Could be rare as its a circulated and abused example. Even in that state though, that is a good find and a very scarce coin!

NumisRob - love that you got yours out again, it is a great coin to have. I will get one eventually when I start collecting crowns.
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 Posted 12/16/2021  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Real Gothic Crown that was turned into a " Brooch Spinner" thus the broken clasp obverse .
A fancy piece of Mid Victorian Coin Jewellery .
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 Posted 12/17/2021  05:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pgc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Will get some pics of the edge later, but in the meantime if it is a real crown, can somebody advise an approx value and where would be the best place to offer it for sale.
Thank you for your help sofar, feeling hopeful that late hubby's 'feeling' for things old and interesting was right in this case.
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 Posted 12/17/2021  06:46 am  Show Profile   Check NumisRob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisRob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gothic crowns seem to fetch four-figure prices in almost any condition these days. This one recently sold on eBay for 2,250:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1847-Pro...324842444270
It was graded XF details but I'd consider it barely VF. When I bought mine, which I would grade Nearly Extremely Fine, it cost 550...
I'm sure someone would be able to advise on the best place to sell it. I wouldn't remove it from the brooch spinner as this may have curiosity value fo some collectors. It may well be that there are just two small pinholes in the edge. You could take it to a dealer and ask their advice, if there are any reputable coin shops around where you live.
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 Posted 12/17/2021  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pgc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, few more pics hopefully





This is the best I can do. Keeping my fingers crossed.
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 Posted 12/19/2021  06:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pgc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any thoughts anyone ?
I live in a small village so there are no reputable coin shops anywhere fairly local.
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