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True View, to its credit, really does accentuate the flaws! Needless to say, this coin looks MUCH better in person. Do you agree with PCGS here? Let's find out.  
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Some major contact marks on the cheek and in front of the neck. Reverse is chattered up too. I'll take your word that it looks better in person, and I'll give it an optimistic MS-65. EDIT: Forgot the PL. MS-65PL final answer 
Edited by jacrispies 12/21/2021 11:40 pm
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Got some deep scars on the cheek so I am going to say MS63 DMPL.
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Such a great year!
Ouch on the scars on the cheek. Quite a bit of chatter on the Reverse, but TPGs tend to be more lenient on that side.
Love the die cracks, don't see that too often on the CCs I suppose.
63PL, not sure we can get over those for what could have been a 64.
My hoard of '82s is up to 241! 218 BC x 1, 118 BC x 3, 18 BC x 1, 82 x 1, 182 x 1, 282 x 2, 382 x 1, 582 x 2, 682 x 1, 782 x 2, 882 x 1, 982 x 4, 1082 x 1 1182 x 8, 1282 x 2, 1382 x 1, 1482 x 6, 1582 x 13, 1682 x 17, 1782 x 60, 1882 x 68, 1982 x 45
Edited by Collects82 12/22/2021 12:26 am
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Deep scratches on the cheek should limit the grade to 63 but the overall eye appeal might support a 64 grade. Too much field haze for DMPL but PL seems likely.
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I've developed real, enduring hostility for "TrueView". I don't trust images labelled with that mark. I'm gonna guess that PCGS gave it the DMPL ... that cheek scar is hard to ignore though. Must have been quite a knife fight. MS62DMPL is where I land.
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MS63PL from these images.
1883-O Nut
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I agree with most others. Looks like a 63PL from these images but would not argue as high as 64 DMPL from PCGS based on your word.
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MS-62PL due to her cheek which is a shame as otherwise I would of said 64. While true views may make some areas stand out they also may the coins look better.
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I'll say 63 DMPL, 64 wouldn't entirely surprise. Nice coin.
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Couple major hits on the cheek. MS63 DMPL
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Quote: I've developed real, enduring hostility for "TrueView". I don't trust images labelled with that mark. That's really where I am at. While they may have somewhat perfected the art of getting a good looking photo, how often do the actual coins actually look that nice in hand? I'm disappointed almost all of the time. The photos set such high expectations and the coins rarely live up to them. The new mantra around here might be "buy the coin, not the TrueView"
My hoard of '82s is up to 241! 218 BC x 1, 118 BC x 3, 18 BC x 1, 82 x 1, 182 x 1, 282 x 2, 382 x 1, 582 x 2, 682 x 1, 782 x 2, 882 x 1, 982 x 4, 1082 x 1 1182 x 8, 1282 x 2, 1382 x 1, 1482 x 6, 1582 x 13, 1682 x 17, 1782 x 60, 1882 x 68, 1982 x 45
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@Collects82: I have seen it both ways. I have seen some coins that are a little crusty in person with get amazing true view images (at just the ONE right angle of lighting that would give the amazing color appearance of luster, and some (like this one) where marks seem much less visible and pronounced on the actual coin than they do on this image.
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82(CC) is one of those years that are not typically sharp and bold at Carson City. PL or DMPL is not out of the question but difficult without something to determine depth. it looks DMPL. what a shame about that jaw hit. right where you dont want it and its pretty deep. I'm hoping you got a MS64 DMPL on the label but the is a possibility that hit could knock a full point.
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I am sorry but if that got a 64 with that cheek PCGS has lost some serious credibility
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I am sorry JasonKFlo, but PCGS did call it MS(64)PL. The marks are less distracting in person, but I understand more and more the subjectivity of TPG. I also understand that for many of you, the neck marks are a deal-breaker. Thanks so much for your opinions! 
Edited by Adam590 12/23/2021 8:38 pm
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