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Fake Morgans? I Think So .

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 Posted 03/11/2022  09:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingwater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know much about coin buying in Italy, except I've bought a few ancient coins from Italian auction houses. If you can watch Youtube there are numerous videos about fake coins. Just do a search on Youtube and you'll see videos showing fake Morgans, fake Peace, fake silver eagles, etc. If the coins you show were mine I'd return them for a refund if I could. I'd only buy from sellers who allow returns or sellers who test the coins for you before you buy. I sometimes see coins here in America at garage sales and estate sales. Some coins are real, some fake. My wife is Italian, her grandparents came to America in the 1920s from Sicily. She says if I ever cheat on her she will contact the mafia .
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I didn't buy these...
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I saw two more of these today ... One weighed in at 26.73... one at 27.8x. what metals are these Alibaba sellers using that's getting the weights so close?

Of course neither today pinged, the details were off, there was evidence of casting but the weights have all been ok..to the untrained collector here in Rome ... These would pass and will likely be bought.... Although the shop today pulled them when I showed the piNGCoin app...
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They have that moulded look to them. The lettering and details aren't sharp, and as one poster said they look balloonish.

One dealer around where I live kept several in his case. When you picked one up it felt light, as if it were made of aluminum. It wasn't, but if you handle real dollars much you can feel the relative lightness of a fake.
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 Posted 03/16/2022  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Roma2021 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So, I have handled fake Morgans made of low weight metals... They weigh no where near 26.73... but all of these ... Except one or two at 1-2 grams overweight . . . Were pretty close. If a buyer didn't ping or didn't know better and only weighed, they'd weight about fine.

Alibaba sells these at about weight. Any ideas what they are making them of at so close to weight?
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Most Chinese made dollar counterfeits are made from brass, plated with a thin layer of silver. Brass has a similar density to silver, and is cheap.
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@jac ... I was surprised by the weights on these ...
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