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1776 Coin And Wanting Some Information On (Id: Likely Contemporary Counterfeit Half Penny)

 
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Hi I'm new here I'm from England I have a 1776 coin and Wanting some information on it I'm thinking of selling but no idea how much its worth
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I found it by the road side over 16 years ago that was one lucky find
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That is a George III Halfpenny. There were no halfpennies struck in 1776.
It is either an US Evasion piece or a copy, I am not familiar enough on these to tell the difference.
Perhaps one of our early coin experts could weigh in on this one.
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We was wondering if it is a machin mill coin
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 Posted 05/10/2022  5:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You're in England, so I'd assume it's a local counterfeit, rather than an American one.

Counterfeiting was very common in the late 1700s. A majority of the halfpenny "coins" circulating in the 1780s were either counterfeits, or "evasions" - medals designed to resemble coins, but with some design or text changes to try to get around anti-counterfeiting laws.

Counterfeiting was of course illegal; numerous convicts despatched to Australia were convicted of forgery. Some of those forgers even helped make Australia's first coins after they got here, putting their coin-making skills to official use.
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I'm guessing if it's counterfeit it's not worth anything then it's not in great condition but it is as old as America 1776 was the year America became a country
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Isn't it 1775?

I don't know if counterfeits made in Britain at that time would have had correct legends. You risked being hung for trying to pass off, when you could just change the legends to something humorous and spend the fakes without consequence.
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JC is right its 1775 as you can see the top of the horizontal bar. 1775 is the most common contemporary circulating counterfeit for GIIIs. These vary in weight and most hover around 125-135 to the regals of 150 grains. Evasions were actually made side by side with these GII/GIII issues with EXACT legends as the regals. Its value is around $5-10. The "5" and "6" is difficult to differentiate at times as we see in this example post.

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...but it is as old as America 1776...

Perhaps not quite that old. The counterfeiters often deliberately made coins that looked old and worn, and gave them suitably "old dates" to match. The late 1780s was the height of the halfpenny-counterfeiting era, though it could date from the 1790s or even early 1800s too.
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