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1964 D Plums Under Chin? Die Vlash Dropped Lettering Or Piece Of Chin Maybe ?

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 Posted 11/22/2022  11:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Aliabeans to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hey all here is the other one I was telling you about and there is a good clash in this on to andnill come back to that in a few but I wanted to see your thoughts on the chin. Look under his chin same thing as my previous post except different area and this has a good clash on it. Ill zero in on the clash part in a lil first ...what are the things under the chin lol. The first 2 puctures by the date and the mint mark you can picture see part of the clash I was talking about and I haven't figured out which way, inverted or otherwise or if its the front rotated over itself or the reverse lol but ill get there but FIRST! what is under the chin lol
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 Posted 11/23/2022  05:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those marks look indented,are they? I am thinking PMD. I see no signs of a die clash. Congrats on 50 post ,contest time
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 Posted 11/23/2022  08:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Indented or raised?
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 Posted 11/23/2022  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Aliabeans to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Raised 100%
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 Posted 11/23/2022  10:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Aliabeans to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is part of the clash its 7am where I'm at and I'm going back to bed but ill get better images of the clash, this outlines in red is just the part I could.see in this picture. I do have some really cool ones on Indian head pennies ill post when I wake up wake up.

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 Posted 11/23/2022  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Aliabeans to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 2 smaller indents on the throat just below the chin and above whatever the raised part is are indented but the larger piece which I'm thinking might be maybe either dropped lettering so maybe an O possibly or maybe a Chin I dont know either that or something got stamped in it but its not a nail or staple type thing I just cant figure it out. When I wake up wake up I'll post wrexlers best 2 guesses I saw on that site that were close but was a mix between that and then a dropped letter or piece of a die then clashed in? I dunno figured you guys and gals could bang your head about it for a lil for me lol xoxoxo thanks
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 Posted 11/23/2022  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A dropped letter would be incuse so it can't be that. Looks like they are small die chips.
I see no sign of a clash, just some circulation damage.
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 Posted 11/23/2022  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Aliabeans to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think I might have figured it out....bare with me what about an Atypical fee clash they are raised look at the one in this picture from maddiesclashes and its really close to where this one is and its really close in shape and size?



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 Posted 11/23/2022  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Aliabeans to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also John1 did you say contest time?
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 Posted 11/23/2022  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually, you would have the contest and give the pony to celebrate your milestone of 50 posts.
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 Posted 11/23/2022  4:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
clashes show part of the design of the other side of the coin, your coin has something else going on, the result of a die chip perhaps
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 Posted 11/23/2022  7:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was having trouble wrapping my noggin around this one at first.

Here's a link to one-cent overlays at Maddieclashes.com
http://www.maddieclashes.com/wp-con...LC-1960b.jpg

If this were a clash, the area under the chin would be from bay #8.
The area around the date might be from part of AMERICA.

If so, the OP is probably correct about his being an Atypical clash.
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 Posted 11/23/2022  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Aliabeans to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmmm I might have to send it in and I read on Maddie Clashes that they can be of the front or back centered or way off centered and or mirrored so & I dunno but I'm thinking its got to be an Atypical Clash thats off center maybe and ill put up pictures of the reverse but there isn't a clash on that side its only the front....I think....
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 Posted 11/24/2022  12:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is no evidence of a clash that I can see anywhere. Damage, PSD, just gouges and misplaced metal. The thing you have outlined as a "J" is something laying on the coin. Keep up the search!
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 Posted 11/24/2022  03:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Aliabeans to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For starters "Peterspocket55" thank you for seeing what I'm seeing and thank you for being objective about it and not just thumbing your nose. Ill let you know for sure when I get it back from Maddiesclashes. Secondly ...No there is nothing "laying over the coin" I repeat ...Just so you know the "thing outlined as a J" is NOT something laying on the coin. I will post other pictures tomorrow from different angles. That said.... I find it ...I dunno if wierd is the right word but its ironic or odd that on a forum where people are supposed to learn and guide eachother. I find that the goto answers immediately for 99% of everyone's posts are PMD its comical. However thank the big man upstairs that there are some people who really helpful. They give thoughts or ideas or show you were to read stuff to support why what your thinking is not correct and how to see what is correct and others are just plain negative they just assume things without asking.. (Yes I am reffering to the comment of its something laying over the coin comment. I almost feel like if the person themselves hasn't found it then for sure someone new hasn't found it. Anyhow much respect to you all. I just ask if your going to respond to this thread please respond with actual facts or an actual question like hey I'm thinking this..... could you please confirm with a picture that there is or is not something laying over the coin, so that I could make an intelligent comment that refutes Petespocketss55 thoughts as well as your own. Or could you send another picture at this angle. Anyhow something like that please and thank you or just dont respond at all. Xoxo
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