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Advice Please On Whether The Paper Clip Dent Affects The Value Of These Devils.

 
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 Posted 02/04/2023  9:32 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add westy00 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have some devils face notes that must have been paper clipped together at some time . No rust on them but it has left a dent . Does this de-value the notes?


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 Posted 02/05/2023  04:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not my area,but it does take away some eye appeal. Isn't there a way to remove the dent? Maybe press in a book or steam?Maybe a grading company can "conserve" it?
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 Posted 02/05/2023  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, there will be a drop in collector's value.
How much, I don't know.

Do nothing to it except place it in a plastic currency sleeve and store it flat in something that will put pressure on it such as a book.
By a plastic currency sleeve I mean one of archival quality.
Describe it as if there were no picture.
Picture it as if there were no description.
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 Posted 02/05/2023  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Check walk2dwater's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add walk2dwater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like a paper clip indentation. I wouldn't o anything to the note since it also looks original but put it in the sleeve. If you monkey with it- put books on it or try to flatten the paper out - you will ultimately lose the embossing. You cannot undo that & there are probably just as many unoriginal (or more) than original notes out there. Most collectors I know would rather have a high grade original AU+ (maybe even UNC60) & would pay more for that, than for an apparent UNC64 that's been pressed (no original/no EPQ).

Just my $0.02
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 Posted 02/05/2023  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the fibers of the paper are not broken, eventually it will flatten out someone when put in a sleeve and in some currency pages in an album. This can hardly be considered pressing since pretty much all notes are handled this way. But I agree that it is best not to do any more.
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 Posted 02/05/2023  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The note looks really nice except the clip part, ask an old timer currency collector at a local club, this should be easy to kind of iron out. Just to add and this is the reason someone can refer you to someone who has done this before, the red ink on too high heat will smear.
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02/05/2023 7:15 pm
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 Posted 02/06/2023  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hounddog Bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes it will reduce the value some but not as much as it would if you were to play around with it.
Put it in a currency sleeve and be done with it, certainly don't iron it.
It is what it is, best advice is just leave it alone.

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 Posted 02/09/2023  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Colhand1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with those that say NOT to do anything to the banknote.
The $2 with the Devil's hair is a desirable note to own.
The condition I believe is AU from the looks of things.
Just put it in a sleeve and maybe over time it will level out.
Congrats on getting this nice note.
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 Posted 02/13/2023  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westy00 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I picked up a few of these different denominations all in excellent condition but they were all clipped together at some point . No rust just a dent . I put them in a heavy stack of books for now .
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 Posted 02/13/2023  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is one of the worst thing to do, after time this method will crush the embossing and you have a press note, all I am saying if you sold this note to a dealer 95% will take out the clip fold if the embossing is still there. Run your finger over the raised ink parts of the note, if you still feel them some pro help you remove the clip mark . this will at least double value. Good luck !
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 Posted 02/13/2023  6:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Levaril to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes ideally just put them in a banknote sleeve and store them away without weight on them. Please don't iron or press them or put heavy books on them. The sleeve itself will help a little with the light folds from the paperclip. Still a very nice looking note!
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 Posted 02/13/2023  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westy00 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok thanks for the no book advice .
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