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2003 Alabama Not Sure? Thoughts Please

 
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 Posted 03/18/2023  04:39 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ReallyIDK to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
grading cost or price's for grading a coin I'mhaving trouble tracking down

Want to not hear PMD status/ I need better pics




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 Posted 03/18/2023  04:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, you don't want to hear PMD, but that is what it is. The edge has been peened, either intentionally or accidentally like in a dryer coin. What you have circled is not clear enough to ID with certainty, but looks like some damage.
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 Posted 03/18/2023  04:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ReallyIDK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you explain how you have came to this conclusion? How would that be done if so? How does it become so perfect in a process called peened or the process of a dryer? Is there absolutely no way that this coin was skipped by the upsetting stage and missed receiving its reeds? Could you please explain this for me ? For being so vague I have Reasonable doubts with your opinion.
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 Posted 03/18/2023  05:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The reeds are struck at the same time as the rest of the coin, the only way a coin can be struck without reeds is if it is struck without a collar also known as broadstruck. In this case the coin will be larger in diameter without an upset rim. Notice how high the rim is on your coin, this is from the edge being peened in and the rim spreads out. How it was damaged is irrelevant, only the person who did it can know for sure, what is relevant is the fact that there is no way for this to happen in the minting process.
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 Posted 03/18/2023  07:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

On the forehead looks like reed hits from another coin. The smooth edge looks like early stage dryer coin,click on dryer coin. Your coin is PMD.
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 Posted 03/18/2023  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ReallyIDK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So the readers are stamped at the same time that the front and back of the coin or stamped does that mean that the coin is smaller than the cavity it's filling?
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 Posted 03/18/2023  08:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is a collar that impresses the reeding, it is often called the third die. The planchet is marginally smaller than the struck coin. When the planchet is struck into a coin, it is pressed outward into the reeded collar at the same time.
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 Posted 03/18/2023  08:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ReallyIDK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Right on I appreciate your appreciate your information or next? So if indeed this coin was smaller than another quarter of the same year variety what would that mean also another question is if this is someone who did this trying to fake an error what error are they trying to fake? And also why would they waste their time if it is so easily noticeable by anybody on the web I mean I guess they don't really need to know why they would do that why would they pick this error to try and manipulate any Thoughts are appreciated
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There is no way this is an error. Read up on the minting process and this will be obvious. If the planchet was too small, then the rims would also not be raised, in fact on this coin they are raised too much. It is damaged, either intentionally or accidentally. Did you read the link on dryer coins in John1's post? These coins show up all the time here.
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 Posted 03/18/2023  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With a little practice, you can make these yourself!
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 Posted 03/18/2023  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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@ReallyIDK - it's completely acceptable to be dubious about information, especially when you are new to something and lack the knowledge yourself.

That said - @lcutler has gone out of his (or her) way to patiently explain to you why this coin looks like it does - and he (or she) is 100% correct.

It's an interesting novelty coin, save it if you like it. It is not an error and has no numismatic premium.
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 Posted 03/18/2023  2:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrak to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely a dryer coin. I pulled one just like this last night. Can load a pic if you want but the edge looks just like what you have shown. Rim is slightly wider than a normal quarter and the diameter is a smidge narrower. It is as @nickelsearcher said, just a novelty coin at this point.
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 Posted 03/21/2023  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to the CCF This is a spooned coin. We use to do it in junior high school back in the 70s. That is the way people make spooned rings. Search spooned rings. Now they are a little more technical about it. They will take a silver dollar and "spoon " it to where the date and motto shows around the ring. They turned it into an art form.
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