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1964 Jefferson Error Nickel With Double Rim?

 
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 Posted 03/18/2023  3:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jynxpvp to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I've looked into some of the errors but haven't found any like this, could this be an error coin? Or is it likely post mint damage?
Any information would be appreciated, I'm new to the space.




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 Posted 03/18/2023  3:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Photos are a bit rough,but maybe this https://www.error-ref.com/?s=partial+collar
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 Posted 03/18/2023  3:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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That is called a Partial Collar strike.
That occurs when the planchet is not fully seated in the collar.
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 Posted 03/18/2023  4:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halo1st to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Something looks fishy. Is the reverse diameter (anvil die) smaller than a normal nickle? If so I'd think it was altered or after strike. Thanks, Doug.
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 Posted 03/18/2023  5:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have my doubts on being a partial collar as well,the rim doesn't look right, it is curved on the inside!! I think it maybe a tooled/damaged coin.
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 Posted 03/18/2023  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jynxpvp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you have any specifically oriented images you'd like to see I'd be happy to take and post them. I'll take a look and see about the diameter.
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 Posted 03/18/2023  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jynxpvp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The diameter of the reverse side is visually identical to a normal American 1994 Jefferson nickle
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 Posted 03/18/2023  5:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halo1st to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Then Partial Collar strike. The concave look on the reverse with the devices riding up it, made it seem a bit different. Thanks, Doug.
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These are the faces, taken with a friend's camera for better image quality

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 Posted 03/18/2023  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a fake partial collar error. The lower part of the coin's edge was rolled and squeezed in the horizontal plane by a hand-cranked or motor-driven mechanical device.
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 Posted 03/18/2023  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jynxpvp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
if it seems too good to be true...

just out of curiosity what makes you say that?
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 Posted 03/18/2023  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can see how the perimeter of the reverse face is strongly concave and the letters in this area are warped upward. This cannot occur in a coining press. I'm sure you'll find that the reverse diameter is smaller than normal (if measured with a micrometer or caliper), while the obverse diameter is normal.
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 Posted 03/19/2023  05:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Thanks @mikediamond for the explanation. As soon as you said it I could see the effect.
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 Posted 03/21/2023  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to the CCF And I think a partial collar would be just that, a partial collar and not the whole collar. At least I've never seen a smaller collar all the way around a coin.
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