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Grading Thoughts On This 1804 Spiked Chin Half Cent

 
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 Posted 03/28/2023  9:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CoinEnthusiast to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
These are not my photos, but I'm curious to hear everyone's thoughts on what this coin would grade out at if it were sent to PCGS/NGC.


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 Posted 03/28/2023  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglebub7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 03/28/2023  10:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This coin almost looks fake if it is real the color of the coin suggests it's been cleaned down to fresh copper.
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 Posted 03/28/2023  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglebub7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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This coin almost looks fake

Thought the same as the angle of the spike looks off to me however, the reverse matches known examples.
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 Posted 03/28/2023  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Terrible pics, no surface detail visible, agree it looks questionable in these images.
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 Posted 03/29/2023  01:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gosh, my first thought was "that's one of the worst fakes I've ever seen." This is supposed to be a 219 year old coin, right? It looks like copper plated junk to me.
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 Posted 03/29/2023  02:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's attempting to be an 1804 C-6, Manley state 11.0 (LDS)
The obverse gets close but looks a bit off.

If it's authentic, then it's been polished, heavily tooled, smoothed and plated, and is seriously low on the eye appeal scale no matter what grade you put on it.


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 Posted 03/29/2023  05:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am thinking modern Chinese fake.
I am surprised that no attempt has been made to artificially patinate it.
Ground burial would have been the easiest way.
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 Posted 03/29/2023  10:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerryc39 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
not thinking this could straight grade. Looks like all the patina has been stripped off by dipping.
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looks like a C6 variety if authentic someone stripped this down and removed every bit of the original surfaces and all we are seeing is the copper.
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Does not look genuine to me.
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