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1969 S Double Die ? Good Enough ?

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I have a Mint State looking 1969S Penny

It has doubling under magnification

Its around the face, on all the date number and
on some of the letters of In God we Trust.

If graded professionally would this be enough to get a Double Die grade.

How do professional grading services judge double die marks ?

Thank you for any advice
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If graded professionally would this be enough to get a Double Die grade.


Doubled die is not a grade.
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Would PGCS put a DDO on the label ?

Also , MS ? DDD ?

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Classic Machine Doubling. The '69 S is notorious for Machine Doubling. And yes, Die Deterioration Doubling may be in play as well. Not a DDO.
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Not the big one, sorry. You'll know it when you see it.



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I've seen dozens of the 1969 cents that were very strongly struck! The 2 9's on your coin look suspicious enough to me as being possibly doubled, while in-hand. That said, double's are often very easy to see even without a microscope. A local dealer might be able to tell if yours is a true double or not. Photos are sometimes discouraging. I would say that most of what you're seeing are MD's. More than likely your coin is in mint state but, not worth having graded.
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That's not helpful for the poster!

So, your obviously, more expert advice than the rest of us is?
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I invite the OP, and indeed all new members, to use the Search Box above to research their questions before posting them live. It's a useless quest, I know, but I keep trying.
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I would venture that this is a result of an instant die shift during the strike. Like a wobbly die. Happens as parts in the machinery wear out.
Consult sites that show what to look for. Copper Coins. Variety Vista, Wexlers. To name a few.
The Big 69 S is unmistakable. PowerBall odds are better.
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Pay less attention to YouTube charlatans and more attention to forums like this one. You will learn more sooner.
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Alex_C,

Your coin is MD not a doubled die. Also, please no photos of your scopes screen, use a memory card please.
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This is classic Machine Doubling and as such is a common occurrence.
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