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Atocha Coin Inherited From My Brother

 
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 Posted 05/29/2023  11:21 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Gord_in_the_keys to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Good morning all My brother dove with Mel fisher at the beginning of the Atocha..I have pictures of him with Mel Fisher holding up some of the treasure..I live in the Florida Keys and have traveled to key west and asked the folks at the Mel fisher museum if they can authenticate the coin and they said they do not offer that service..but what they did say is that it is a very rare coin..van anyone here advise me of any information on the coin...thank you all for any information
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 Posted 05/29/2023  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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 Posted 05/29/2023  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add classic_coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks to be a silver 8 reales, minted 1616(?). Would retail at a realistic $100-300 I 'd guess, if genuine and depending on in-person eye appeal. Things to consider: 1) being made into jewelry, yours has been damaged (notice the marks where the frame's "claws" bite the coin), and that's a big negative; 2) while you can connect your brother to Mel Fisher, can you connect this specific coin to the wreck? Lots of fakes out there, so if you want to sell it, either find a buyer who trusts you, or remove it from the necklace and submit it to NGC.
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 Posted 05/29/2023  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What the piece claims to be IS a scarce type. It would be a very nice example of the scarce to rare assayer mark "PAL", "RAL"... scholarship has evolved on the name so you will see both of those initial sets used. Also, piece displays a fully-struck 1618 date (only year for that assayer).

Such a piece draws instant suspicion as possibly being a replica cast from an original coin, which the Fishers have done since the "motherlode" was found. Not the highest resolution pics, but looking at the edges, the surfaces (especially the type of pores visible)... I suspect that is the case here, but I can't categorically condemn it (and I don't have my picture database with me to check for a match).

Send better photos to Dan Sedwick - find his email at sedwickcoins.com.
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 Posted 05/29/2023  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gord_in_the_keys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all..I did send a higher rez pic to Sedwick today, I would have posted here but instructions says "images must be under 300KB".
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 Posted 05/30/2023  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like a cast replica to me. None of the features have the sharp edges of a struck cob. While some rounding might be due to corrosion, every feature has the same rounding. A trace metals analysis might help verify it.

I buy cobs, but not something this questionable and shiny polished.
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