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Valued Member
Italy
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Hello. Since I am not competent in the matter, I wanted to ask your opinion to find out what the coin depicts, and whether it is possible to establish from the photos whether it is a reproduction. The coin weighs 16.68 g, the diameter is 24.   |
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Moderator
 United States
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@jos, I believe this is purporting to be a Tetradrachm of Syracuse and unless you paid thousands of Euros for it, then it is almost certainly going to be a fake. Some fakes are struck, but can you please add a picture of the edge to this thread so that we can look for a casting seam? Thx.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Over my pay grade but looks too good to be true.
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Topic StarterItaly
102 Posts |
Sorry but the dimensions and weight don't seem small to you  |
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United States
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Well a Tet should weigh about 18 g I think, but the grind marks on the edge of this coin *are* a definite concern. I wouldn't buy a coin like this outside of a reputable auction house that specialized in Ancient Greek coins.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Just an FYI here. It's probably meant to be EVMH-NOV below and behind the neck. EVMHNOV = Eumenes, the name of an ancient die engraver who often signed his work.
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Topic StarterItaly
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Thanks. So could the coin be original?It does not seem to me a falsified signature. I convene in your opinion.
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Topic StarterItaly
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Can we know what this writing that I highlighted on the coin means?  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Those edge striations certainly don't look like random circulation marks.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Can we know what this writing that I highlighted on the coin means? That is the NOV in the EVMH-NOV that I mentioned earlier. This general type (Syracuse tets with quadriga/Arethusa and dolphins) is among the most faked of ancient coins. Some of these fakes are very good. Although some of the fakes are cast, many are struck. Many modern dies exist for these. If genuine, your coin would be worth thousands of dollars. The light weight of yours is concerning, as Spence pointed out. But, on the other hand, I have spotted some others that are under 17 g. like this one.
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09/17/2023 11:25 am
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Topic StarterItaly
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Like you, I think that the coin is not original. I just wanted to know if there were identical fakes on which I could compare the coin, and remove any doubts. I certainly don't think of getting rich with the coin. I work, I always work. Thank you.
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Topic StarterItaly
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Certainly, this is not my case, but once in a flea market in Germany a lady found a block of stamps, one of which was worth several thousand dollars. Therefore, hope must never be lacking. As I said, I am not expert.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Nice looking copy. Good colour and tone, really well done. tourist piece though. IMO fake as they come  |
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Valued Member
Portugal
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I do not think this was meant as a tourist piece. Those reproduce famous pieces, are copies.
This is work of a forger who was more familiar with the roman republic art style in coins. Is is different from these of Syracuse. My guess, it was struck with a fantasy die with bad style and the forgers knew and attempted to disguise that simulating wear and dirt.
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