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2023-P Jovita Idár Quarter - Recess Anomaly Under Queue Tie - Grade Practice

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This is a 2023-P Jovita Idár quarter with what appears to be a recessed anomaly located beneath George Washington's queue tie.

I'm posting for grading practice and feedback. Looking for experienced eyes on the strike characteristics and whether this might be an undocumented variety. Images below.

Thanks!
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2023-P-Jovita-Idár-Quarter---Recess-Anomaly-Under-Queue-Tie---Grade-Practice

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 Posted 06/20/2026  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Keith67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I'm not sure what that could be.
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to the CCF, megbattman.
If it's recessed, it could be a struck-through-grease error.
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To CCF! Interesting find.
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Grade looks to be low-end MS, although there is some "chatter," as well as some Reed Marks (most notably near her mouth/lips). Also, I'm not sure if that's a scratch, starting on Washington's forehead. The "anomaly" is very interesting and a bit of a mystery.
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I am going to try to get some better photos or rather some cleaner images. I am very curious about this mark on Washington's neck beneath his queue tie, much more than the grade. I can not find another like this. I can't find any quarter that has this recessed area, and for that reason it struck my interest. If anyone has any info or has seen or can find another like this I am fascinated, and would love to know more!!
Thanks guys!
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to the CCF

We want to be helpful - but this blast of 7 photos at odd angles is not helping us to help you.

Please manage your photos to full coin straight on images and a detail shot of what you are trying to show.

Cropping and properly rotating for correct orientation is also welcome.

I've edited your thread to remove the duplicate and angled photos.
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PLEASE HELP ME PHOTOGRAPH BETTER IMAGES!

mean ironically enough I am a professional photographer ... of people : \ ... I don't know the preferred format for photographing coins. Also, as they are a great deal smaller then my subjects I do not have a special macro lens to do this easily.

BUT...

Any advice is greatly appreciated!! I am sure that the advice I received from the web should have been taken with a grain of salt.

As far as the angles ... I want to know what the community wants!!

Any advice or bullet points will be sincerely appreciated!!!

Thank you all!

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As far as the angles ... I want to know what the community wants!! Any advice or bullet points will be sincerely appreciated!!!


The CCF thread Keith67 referenced is a great place to start.

Regardless of the type of camera or set-up, there are a few basic 'rules' for showing photos at the CCF

1. Always show in-focus full coin images of both sides, shot straight down with the coin flat against a neutral color background.
2. A detail shot, at most two, with a closeup of the area in question is usually a good idea if you are soliciting opinions on an artifact present on the coin. The detail shot can be on an angle if that is the best way to visualize the artifact.
3. Always crop the image to eliminate unnecessary background, and rotate the image so the coin appears straight up.
4. File size must be less than 10MB

Best of wishes on your future coin photographs.
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I'll be the contrarian and say I kind of liked the original set of photos, because they provided a better view of the struck through or whatever it is. In rare cases, an angled shot might be needed for visual clarity. In the case of the quarter, it might take an in-hand assessment by the appropriate expert to figure out what is going on, since it is so hard for us to determine.
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@halfamind - we are saying the same thing.

You said:


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In rare cases, an angled shot might be needed for visual clarity.


I said:


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The detail shot can be on an angle if that is the best way to visualize the artifact.


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lol, @nickelsearcher. Maybe I'm not the contrarian I thought I was.
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THANK YOU ALL!! for the info!

I think I will make the bottle cap / light / book style shot work TONIGHT!!

I will do more formally arranged straight forward shots. Front and Back. I tried to investigate & ask advice before posting, however someone may have given me so bad info.

*To the individual that mentioned my angles ... yeah...

With the reflective nature of coins & their natural reaction to light I did tilt the angles of this coin to show off the contrast which did do better with particular angles and lighting.

In addition . I have not heard or seen anyone with criticism of the background color. I will still do both black and white, but BLACK LOOKS BETTER! It is simply the contrast. And the Black allows one's eye to focus more easily on the desired subject.

I understand it may not be the industry or community norm, but irregardless, black is most defiantly more visually appealing!!

BUT in reality, as I have mentioned I am on a basic education level when it comes to what is standard, desired, sought after &/or preferred by coin enthusiasts, as far as the images they / you all review.

**** SIDE NOTE ****
****I AM :) RE-FOCUSING ****

Aside from my lack of skill in photographing coins for review...

I am truly trying to find out how this coin came to be?

If anyone has seen an anomaly or error like this before?

Has anyone seen one like this on this particular coin?

AND

If no one has seen what does that / this mean?

I do understand the obvious as far as sending it off to service like PCGS for authentication or grading etc, but my curiosity supersedes my desire for grading.

Can anyone help me understand this coin?

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THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR FEEDBACK AND INFO!!!
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