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BU Rolls Vs. Mint Sets

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 Posted 07/11/2009  5:48 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add acramos1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Which one contains higher grade coins and why is that?
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 Posted 07/11/2009  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daviscfad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I would say the mint sets have higher graded coins b.c they are more carefully handled. Rolls going to banks get thrown around a lot more
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 Posted 07/11/2009  11:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It depends on the denomination and date.

Before 1965 there doesn't appear to be any especial pains taken for mint set coins. These appear to generally just be hand selected coins from the regular production lines. They were less marked up but not significantly better otherwise.

In 1965 both proof and mint sets were discontinued and then the SMS's were invented. These were made in San Francisco on lower speed presses under higher pressure by new dies. Many of the planchets were at least lightly polished. There was extensive experimentation until 1967 when there's much less variation in techniques and quality is generally higher.

In 1968 most of these new techniques were retained for the mint sets when they were reintroduced. Many of the dies for mint set coins even receive some proof processing so PL's are not excessively rare. PL's do also appear in circulation but in far lower percentages and perhaps lower numbers in most cases.

It's not so much that mint set quality is so high as it is that business strike quality has been awful. Many of the coins made for circulation can be extremely difficult just to find nice much less gem. And, of course, some of these coins were set aside in tiny numbers so there aren't any coins to search anyway.

Since 2005 the mint has chrome plated the mint set dies so the coins look distinctly different now.

All mint set coins appear as choice gem in the mint sets and can be as common as 6% for a '72-D quarter to as scarce as .01% for a '76 type I Ike in the clads. Cents vary far more with well over 50% of '88-D's being gem and fewer than ~.3% of '79-D's.

Finding gems in circulation is far easier than several years ago but it can be huge work requiring a lot of heavy lifting while finding them in mint sets is more like shooting fish in a barrel.
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 Posted 07/12/2009  01:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acramos1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, so which is better? Mint sets or rolls?
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In virtually all cases the mint sets win in a landslide. Not only do they have a far higher percentage of gems but the best is better than what's in rolls.

There are exceptions.

Also if you're primarily interested in clean coins this is much less true though mint sets still win. Not all coins come in mint sets and few varieties do. Clean Ikes can be very tough in sets and if you're not extremely concerned with strike and die quality you might be better off looking at rolls.
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Hi acramos. It appears to me like you are looking to find some high MS coins in the rough and send them in for grading. FYI many of the mint sets available on the secondary market(like ebay) have been given the once-over by cherry pickers.
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So, buy from trusted sources?
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Whenever possible, buy from the mint. Otherwise assume that any mint set that you see may have already been looked over for gems. Get good pictures, or better yet, buy from a local dealer so you can inspect the coins first hand.
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