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 Posted 01/27/2010  8:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add killians76 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I see something there, seems like it is sideways on both things that I see, which , to me, forms another D. anyway what do you think?
I have arrows pointing to what I see, but they are small so look close.
http://i423.photobucket.com/albums/...0_5055-1.jpg
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01/27/2010 8:38 pm
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 Posted 01/28/2010  06:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think they are metal flow lines.
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 Posted 01/29/2010  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Die flow lines. The metal to metal contact wear the die and the LDS-VLDS show this very strong. The marking in the center of the mint mark is a bad punch. You find this area looking like this from coins of different dies for this year. IE: 1979-d with the split in the lower serif is another example of this.
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 Posted 01/29/2010  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add killians76 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hey coop, thanks for all the info, helps when explained instead of getting slapped in the face. Glenn
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 Posted 01/30/2010  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It might help to mention that the D is also distorted as a result of a contact mark.

Thanks,
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 Posted 01/30/2010  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm with John and coop on this one.
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 Posted 01/31/2010  07:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Glen,are you saying I slapped you with my answer?If so,it was not my intent,sorry
Coop,are die flow lines the same as metal flow lines?
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 Posted 01/31/2010  08:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It might help to mention that the D is also distorted as a result of a contact mark.


Just why would that be in the least bit helpful?

Am I missing another concept on how PMD directly relates to die wear?
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 Posted 01/31/2010  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is helpful because some folks here look at something, see something that they think is something else and often what they are looking at is a function of some kind of damage.

The distortion of the D and what this person is seeing might be related if the damage and what they think they see have anything to do with each other.

Since the person posting was not particularly specific as to what they were looking at, I wanted to add my thought to the mix.

You are missing the concept that die wear and damage can work together to cause the viewer of the coin to see things in a different way.
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 Posted 01/31/2010  2:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
'I' am not missing anything here. I didn't miss the 'arrows' that the author pointed out in the original post, and I doubted that anyone else would have either, but it looks like I was wrong about that.
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 Posted 02/01/2010  3:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
John1: Yes. It is on the die the lines appear making each coin after they start have the same die flow lines with stronger ones in later die states.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

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 Posted 02/03/2010  7:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add killians76 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
John1, in no way disrespect, I thank all of you for your input. Let me explain, I was meaning I like it to be explained so I can learn from it, rather than a "no it's not" or "don't think so". Just something that might enable me to learn from it rather that just read it. Thanks John1
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 Posted 02/03/2010  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Zeewool

everyone has their own way of helping, yours may not be the same as foundinrolls, that does not make either of you wrong.

making a note of the damage on the mint mark is one way of helping.

to be honest the ding on the D was the first thing I saw when I opened the picture, I had to look close to see the red arrows.

lets help each other help others.

Thanks to both of you for your contributions to the thread and the forum.

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