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 Posted 01/01/2011  12:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Someone had to prove it wrong.


Somehow, I don't see you as the type to wait for that someone to come strolling along.... The difference between us is that you are tactful, patient, and not belligerent (hardly the positive role model for a young, upcoming curmudgeon such as I)...

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 Posted 01/01/2011  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Keep in mind, the whole time these highly learned people were forming complex hypotheses based upon the flatness of the earth, every illiterate mariner knew the earth was round. They'd seen the curvature of the horizon from all 4 points of the compass, and it didn't take a lifetime of education to see what was what.
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Interesting choice of words: curmudgeon

It is a word I learned while living in Great Britain. The British are a wonderful people. It is a shame two great countries are separated by a common language.

From dictionary.com --noun
a bad-tempered, difficult, cantankerous person


World English Dictionary
curmudgeon (keːˈmʌd�'en)

-- n
a surly or miserly person


Our modern english language is a synthesis middle english and Norman high french. Britain has had a sucession of invasions in it's history. The original Celtic people were invaded by the Jutes, Swabs, Frisians, Angles, Danes, Romans, Saxons and by the Normans in the year 1066 (battle of Hastings). These sucessive ivasions were mostly by peoples of Germanic language. All of the irregular verbs we use in modern English such as drink , drank, drunk are Germanic in origin. Some words have survived totally Germainc like kindergarten. It is German for 'children's garden.
Call this historic memory if you will.
Curmudgeon though for me will always be British. I have a good friend who uses that word. What an odd coincidence.

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 Posted 01/01/2011  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Likend to new the new, who study, its like being one of the features on the Morgan dollar, you can only see so much from your present location.
Many rules have been deemed 100% from the beginning, even though over the course of decades these rules get applied and not applied as opinion-ed. When one looks from out side the box, on a larger scale, studies more coins, years/series and the methodology of the Press operations. The why's, of questions and answers can be found...Though some of the answers may still be debated as politics is involved in every thing...One can't sit in a cubical and admire the 100 story skyscraper from the inside..
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Heh, heh....I like that Gene....

Curmudgeons and lemmings.... we all have memories and draw conclusions from them.... I am happy to see you finally show up here VfM....
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I have a good friend who uses that word. What an odd coincidence.


Coincidence? Does your buddy use this word to describe himself, (or others)?
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 Posted 01/04/2011  01:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SO WHY, is forensic's necessary?is it because of the original concepts, and attributions have evolved into die states? the concept of die marriages turned to die progressions? or that perhaps the gained knowledge over time, has evolved into more than the beginning concepts and understandings and attributions? its not the changing of the past, that we share, but the light that shines before us..to move forward in understanding and the changes/knowledge that moves us forward...
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I'm not really so sure that forensics is necessary Gene..... It may be interesting to some of us, but "necessary"? I sorta get the impression that to most folks, it is not.
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Forensics is necessary because some of us are unfulfilled by the "what."

I could take every Morgan dollar minted, set them up on a conveyor belt running under a properly programmed high-res camera, and eventually have all of the "what" while I was elsewhere, eating bacon and drinking beer. That's a mechanical thing, not difficult for a person with the right mental orientation.

Frankly, attribution bores me. Anyone with enough information can do it. I want to know why it happened that way; that seems to me to be the direction in which "fresh" thinking has to go, and I'd rather break a new trail than follow an old one.
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The how and why of this is important Different die states of pitting? How did that occur?

For every answer it seems new questions arise.
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That is what I like about this particular forum....... I am not overwhelmingly outnumbered by those who feel that importance is measured in terms of value and profitability.
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 Posted 01/04/2011  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I haven't the disposable income to generate much "value and profitability." I gotta get my jollies in a different fashion.

Although I *can* afford bacon and beer; my previous idea is gaining traction in my mind.
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 Posted 01/04/2011  12:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Serious question here....Is bacon and beer a widely accepted combination of food and drink? Kinda like wine and bread or wine and cheese, or wine and crackers, or wine and CCF, or wine and potato chips, or wine and pizza, or wine and spaghetti, or wine and bacon, or wine and (well, you get the idea)?
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Bacon is the Wonder Food. It goes with anything. There is no gustatory problem which bacon will not fix.
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I wish I could find the article, but a few years ago a young boy noticed on the 1921-D D2 reverse that Eagles lower right wing feather looked a lot like eagle's beak. I suspect this was George Morgan's inside joke on everyone.
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