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1967 LMC Off Center?

 
 
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 Posted 12/13/2010  3:05 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Found this one roll searching this morning. Is it considered an off center or is it something else? Value? Grade? Thanks in advance,
John1


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 Posted 12/13/2010  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a softly struck misaligned obverse die. Very little premium value, but a genuine error nonetheless.
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 Posted 12/13/2010  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What about the reverse. The gap between ONE CENT and the rim? Thanks,
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 Posted 12/13/2010  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree the obverse looks like a misaligned die plus it looks like there is some vertical misalignment. John, if you think it is off centered then check the diameter. An off centered strike is struck out of collar so the diameter would be larger.
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 Posted 12/13/2010  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will have to ask my nephew to measure it,I don't have a way to do it.
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 Posted 12/13/2010  7:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You could well be correct about the gap along the lower reverse rim. Take the suggestion to have it measured. If struck in collar, it should be 19mm all the way around. If struck out of collar, it will be larger.

Another suggestion - without measuring tools why not just compare it to another cent from the same era and see if it's larger?
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 Posted 12/14/2010  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could the reverse be considered a broad-strike? I am going to have my nephew measure it to get an exact size. It can't be much larger then norm because it had to have gone through a counting machine and a rolling machine, I found it in a String and Sons roll. I will let you know the size when I find out.
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 Posted 12/25/2010  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Finally got a measurement,It's just under 19mm all around. So is it an off center,Or a broad struck in collar or what? I'm a little confused on this one. Thanks everyone,
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 Posted 12/25/2010  1:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Off centered strikes and broadstrikes are both out of collar errors having a larger diameter. The difference between the two is broadstrikes have the complete design on the coin which can sometimes be referred to as centered or uncentered. When the planchet was uncentered so much that part of the design is missing then the error is an off centered strike. On your coin here I'll stick with a slight MAD but I think this is a nice example of a Vertically Misaligned Die. The only other thing I can think of that would cause this is a tapered planchet. Is the planchet thickness the same around the coin?
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 Posted 12/26/2010  2:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add x78089 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good find!
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