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Does Anyone Here Collect Pandas?

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 Posted 07/06/2011  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuffaloBonehead to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I picked up a 1992 1oz silver panda for $50 a few months ago. It was from a lazy dealer who hates the international stuff and doesn't believe it should command a premium over spot any more than ASEs. Lucky me. I've really been thinking about buying some more, but I would rather start with current issues than spend a mint buying older ones.
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 Posted 07/06/2011  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Landude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, the ebay link was pretty informative. It's a good looking coin, I'm thinking like Buffalobone and might just start picking up the recent releases... The ASE's and the pucks are killing me.
So little time and so little money.
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 Posted 07/08/2011  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add allranger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Buffalo, I'm not sure if it is just laziness or if they are about that price in the coin shops. One here has a box of them for $46 each (mixed dates, puts all the pandas in there). I usually grab one when ever I go in. He is reputable and sells a lot of coins so who knows? Maybe they just don't sell well locally. I think I'm the only one that buys them. Seems like American coins alway sell fast there though.
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 Posted 07/09/2011  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add epop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I bought a 2010 panda recently in a capsule and sealed.Examine the coin it was different from mine genuine coin.So I take it out and here are some pictures from the fake and the genuine coin.
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 Posted 07/09/2011  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rastatodd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not a Panda collector, but learning. Is the genuine panda on the left? This thread is interesting to a new comer to Chinese pandas. Thanks for posting the comparison.
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 Posted 07/09/2011  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add murrough to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Buffalo, I'm not sure if it is just laziness or if they are about that price in the coin shops. One here has a box of them for $46 each (mixed dates, puts all the pandas in there). I usually grab one when ever I go in. He is reputable and sells a lot of coins so who knows? Maybe they just don't sell well locally. I think I'm the only one that buys them. Seems like American coins alway sell fast there though."

Allranger, Wow, I would love to find a shop like this. I have called about every coin shop in my state and Pandas are very hard to come by at any price let alone cheap ones. Any chance you want to e-mail with the name and location of this shop?
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 Posted 07/09/2011  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add epop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Not a Panda collector, but learning. Is the genuine panda on the left? This thread is interesting to a new comer to Chinese pandas. Thanks for posting the comparison.

On the left is the fake one.This is the wrong way for the steps of the temple to make.I am new in pandas also but I 've learned the hard wayPaying
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 Posted 07/09/2011  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add epop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
and I mark some diferrences on this photo
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 Posted 07/09/2011  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add allranger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
murrough: after reading the tread again I can say that the shop no long has any panda coins left. I went in a bought them all.

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07/09/2011 4:14 pm
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 Posted 07/09/2011  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Epop, that detective work you did there to discover those fake, is nothing short of brilliant analyzing IMO, great work. I hate you had to loose out on a couple, but knowing those few minor differences is the difference between getting ripped off, and not. And on a large purchase, that could be most vital information....

I am guessing in all three photo's the fakes are on my left, and the real on the right?

That side profile picture, you can see where the fake looks thicker, and unevenly proportioned compared to the real one, which has a thinner straighter side profile....
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07/09/2011 2:59 pm
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 Posted 07/09/2011  3:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You said the steps go the wrong way, they clearly look different, and if you look at the 2010 at the bottom left fake one, it does not look professionally stamped so to speak, and the numbers are to close to the bottom of the coin. It also looks as if the fake silver whatever metal, has lost its luster a bit around the edges, but of course that could be masked in a lie as "toning" I am sure....

I am having harder trouble noticing difference on Panda side, as if anything the date stampings looks less defined among the bamboo trees in the background....

I think information from Epop above, is a huge contribution to any who collects these Panda's and are lucky enough to spot it, thanks again....
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07/09/2011 3:09 pm
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 Posted 07/09/2011  3:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add epop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks silverhawk74 for your good words.Imagine if these fakes arrived double sealed in Greece what happens in States the biggest numismatic market in the world.
To spot a fake is easy enough if you have an original coin for comparison.In these bullion coins it's difficult to make a nice copy because of the weight of precious metals.So always look the diameter the thickness and the weight.
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 Posted 07/14/2011  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I watched a lot of suckers paying hundreds of dollars for them. They will never get any coin. I wished I were able to notify them in time.


Why do you think ebay removed bidder IDs? To protect crooked sellers.
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 Posted 07/14/2011  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I am guessing in all three photo's the fakes are on my left, and the real on the right?


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On the left is the fake one.This is the wrong way for the steps of the temple to make.


I would have guessed the sharper, more detailed coins were the fakes, turns out the opposite.

If you're showing comparisons, please label them.
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 Posted 07/15/2011  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add epop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
that's the matter that counterfeiters make sharp enough coins.But they cann't achieve the contrast between mat-proof - proof.You can see easily that on the ''sharp'' coin the date is not centered.
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