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Spotting A Fake Banknote! - Input Appreciated

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 Posted 06/19/2011  7:01 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CoinManTim to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Good morning!
Have recently started looking at notes (not yet ready to buy, just browsing). Came across this on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...ht_500wt_949

$50 Specimen note.

I have found another link for this note here (from a website saying this is what it looks like):

http://www.australianstamp.com/Coin...19733deo.gif
(thanks to the owner of this site!)

There are a few slight differences between the notes where the word "specimen" is stamped. (Where it cuts AUST, 50, and the serial number best place to see this). - Should I therefore assume this is a fake?

Or my other question was; is the word "specimen" stamped on after printing, which would account for the difference?

- It's a type 3 Phillips-Wheeler note.

Appreciate input. Thanks all.

Edited by CoinManTim
06/19/2011 7:02 pm
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 Posted 06/19/2011  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Enlil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They both look ok to me, printing is not precise just take a few circulating banknotes and you will see a difference.
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 Posted 06/21/2011  7:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The final price $3,448... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...RK:MEWAX:IT.

If I were the seller of that note I would be bitterly disappointed with that price.
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 Posted 06/22/2011  05:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinManTim to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes. If I had a note worth $22,000 sell for $3500 I'd be bitterly disappointed too. Mind you, if I had any numismatic lots worth a great deal of bucks I'd be selling them through an auction house, not an internet site.
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 Posted 06/22/2011  08:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do specimen notes have the same value as real ones?
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 Posted 06/26/2011  02:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
no: specimens fetch a lot more, because there's a lot less of them.
Non-collectors understand that they are not "money", and therefore worthless; so they are mystified at the prices collectors pay.

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 Posted 06/28/2011  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wesley to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am sceptical about buying such a note on good ol ebay from a seller with a 10 rating and nothing else for sale
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Realistically this sale is SUSS
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 Posted 06/29/2011  01:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
last year there were a lot of specimen $50 & $20 offered on ebay by a vendor in Croatia.
I queried some aspect of the "notes", and it transpired that he'd only accept AUD or USD cash, through the mail.
My confidence was not enlivened, so I did not bid.
There aren't many of these around, but I think I'll wait until I find one in Oz before I buy.
A thought that I can't shake out of my head: with the "SPECIMEN" overeprint, they were never legal tender. So copying one, by whatever means, would not amount to counterfeiting. A lucrative loophole, it seems to me. So I'd be very careful about examining anything I bought.

P.
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 Posted 06/29/2011  07:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve - Oz 50c man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ha! you make an interesting point Peter... and timely for me as I have just started reading "Heads I Win" the story of David Gee - Australia's Most Audacious Coin Forger! now where did I put that red specimen stamp? LOL
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