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Whats Up With Shell Case Cents?

 
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 Posted 09/05/2011  11:41 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add rachums107 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
When were these made and how do you tell if one is made of shell casing or not?
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 Posted 09/05/2011  12:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Whytlash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SHELL-CASE BRONZE PLANCHETS (1944-1945)

1944 1,435,000,000

1944-D 430,578,000

1944-S 282,760,000

1945 1,040,515,000

1945-D 266,268,000

1945-S 181,770,000

COPPER PLANCHETS RESUMED (1946-1958)
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 Posted 09/05/2011  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Whytlash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can peruse this as well:

http://goccf.com/t/81477
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 Posted 09/05/2011  1:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rachums107 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks dude
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 Posted 09/05/2011  2:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add googoo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
never heard of this...interesting
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 Posted 09/05/2011  3:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For years, I've read in various books how 1944-45 LWCs were struck from shell cases.
A few sources even paraphrase a Treasury report, saying the casings came from small-caliber weapons--really?
Using the mintages posted above, that calculates to nearly 25 million pounds of bronze
I can only guess the brunt of small-caliber casings were spent on the battlefield, but who collected 25 million pounds worth?
Small arms normally eject casings; were there soldier details to collect casings--amidst unexploded ordnance and other hazards?
Perhaps it's more likely that larger guns, used on tanks, planes, and ships would recycle their (unejected) casings?
--just wondering here.
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 Posted 09/05/2011  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add n9jig to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
According to Whitman's Red Book the recycled brass was used 1944 through 1946.

The color is slightly darker on some coins.

While many of the shell casings recycled could and probably did come from combat zones, a large portion of them could also have been recovered from domestic sources, such as firing ranges and training centers for artillery personnel.
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 Posted 09/05/2011  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add schockergd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ranges and most training exercises turn up alot of left over brass. I don't think the army allows reloading at all for brass, so it gets sold off to someone to use in recycling. Someone always gets the job of sweeping brass of of the firing line, and each soldier might fire a few thousand rounds of ammo in training in the us. Don't forget tank and artillery training as well, as both at that time would have produced brass shell casings.
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 Posted 09/06/2011  11:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My understanding was that most if not all of the recycled brass came from training. (Although I have heard stories from navy sailors who claim that they were detailed to recover the shell casings used in the smaller guns during action. They hated it because before the orders the casings would be jettisoned over the side but now they had to be gathered and kept out of the way during action lest they get underfoot.) Also the cents for these years used recycled shell cases, but they were not made exclusively from shell cases.
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 Posted 09/06/2011  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What you guys wrote makes a whole lot of sense
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