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Hungry/Dutch Coins: Late 1500/Early 1600 Have The Same Word?

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The word TRAN ISVLA NIA or "Tranisvlania" is found on a 2-stuiver of Overijssel of the United Provinces of the Netherlands from the year 1619.

What does "Tranisvlania" mean in Dutch?

I read on a google translation of a forum in Dutch that it translates into Overijssel, one "of the United Provinces of the Netherlands."

But that seems quite odd considering the word TRANSYL-VANIAE or "Transylvaniae" is found on coins from the Hungry/Poland area during the same period, namely 3 and 6 groschen coins dated 1597, 1598, 1609, a Taler from 1589, as well as a 3 groschen 1608 having TRANSYL VANI.

This seems like the same word, but in a different language or dialect. Were the Dutch reaching over into Hungry or Poland during this era?
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It's a Latin translation of 'Overijsel"... But the die makers had some different translations I guess. Because there are different ones: TRANSISVLANIA, TRASISVLANIA and TRANSISALANIA. also TRASISVLANIA is found on some Doits... (source: duiten.nl)
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Latin for "Spanning the Ijssel (River)" same meaning as as Overijssel. Transylvania is "Spanning the forest."
Isul/Issel/Isel are old forms of the name of the River Ijssel.
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Wow, that's great, thanks for the help on that one guys! And to think I was imagining the Danish heading over to Poland/Hungry.
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