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Canada 150th: 1967 Centennial Big Coin Series

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 Posted 12/30/2016  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The next coin in the series available now at The Coin Shoppe.

ALEX COLVILLE DESIGNS - BOBCAT - 1967 CENTENNIAL BIG COIN SERIES - 2017 25 Cents 5 oz Pure Silver

Single edition - no need to buy subscription.
Dealer sells the coin for issue price - no need to overpay.
Free shipping (i think I not misstake here)

http://www.thecoinshoppe.ca/alex-co...-silver-rcm/

Each one will decide, to pay CAD 560 or not (the coins not expected to be popular), but the coin is beautiful, and will enrich any balanced and thematic collection.
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 Posted 12/30/2016  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin is also available at Gatewest w/ VIP discount: http://store.gatewestcoin.com/cgi/v...83U11T43p58F


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 Posted 12/30/2016  11:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As I said in the beginning of tis topic, just beating a theme to no end. Collectors are tired of endless 100.00 themes coins, you expect 500.00 coins to be very popular, especially the way this set was marketed.
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 Posted 12/30/2016  12:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Collectors are tired of endless 100.00 themes coins, you expect 500.00 coins to be very popular, especially the way this set was marketed.


No, in opposite - it will not be popular.
But among all endless variety, the expensive 5oz's "remakes" are still relatively fresh theme, and some collectors might be will want to grab it.
Everyone of us have "flagships" in the collection, and this Big Bobcat could be as well.
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 Posted 12/30/2016  12:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My opinion --- especially 5oz or 2oz replicas of original circulated coin, or whatever grand size will appear in the future, will only ever appeal to a small niche market and I don't see any reason for this to change.

NCLT collectors might assume because there are collectors of silver dollars, pennies or other denominations, these same people will jump all over largeer-than-life replicas.

Reasons why not -
1. Price. Why buy a replica at 10x or more price of a truly rare original.
2. Size. Circulation coin does not come in boxes or cases. Larger replicas are of course bigger, can't fit within the display that is likely a coin binder or coin tray as the original collection. What's the point of a collection if it can't be looked at collectively?
3. Originality. Nothing is going to change the fact that probably the majority of circulation collectors do not all view NCLT as "real" because it's commercially manufactured for retail sale.
4. Larger size than original, also less desirable, suggests the smaller original to be inferior.

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12/30/2016 1:04 pm
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 Posted 12/30/2016  1:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@wildflower: I agree that these "Big Coin" pieces are a niche vs. mainstream product and only will ever appeal to a small subset of Canadian coin collectors. To me, they are much closer to being medals with symbolic denominations than they are true coins (but I say that for just about all NCLT issues).

Every collector has their own approach to what they enjoy adding to their collection, and the hobby is bigger and better for the diversity it creates.


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 Posted 12/30/2016  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Kind of missed a word on previous comment, that the dollar would not be popular as reasons described, so now we know there is no aftermarket for the dollar version, why would you expect the bobcat to do any better. The original big coin series was cool, most my collector friends bought multiple sets for gifts and what not, truly disappointed with the follow up colour version, as such most of my friends and myself skipped on this series due to too many similar coins and increased mintage along with the chance for a colour version. I think even CCC can see the writing on the wall.
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 Posted 12/30/2016  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@john100: Not all collectors view aftermarket "success" as the primary driver for what they add to their collection. Why not let folks enjoy what they enjoy?


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 Posted 12/30/2016  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Have no problems with what anyone collects, but if the unit can be bought for large discounts months after issue why not wait a few months. I collect mainly errors which is hard to price in a normal marketplace, but in tis down market it's very difficult to judge value, but with almost all recent NCLT it's a simple, just wait a few months, but you are correct always buy what you like.
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 Posted 12/30/2016  1:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If we speak about oversized 5oz versions...

Please find a good home for this one (**your chance to get it for lower than market**)

2012 5 oz Silver Canadian Coin - Farewell to the Penny

Current bid: CAD 306 , Shipping: CAD 9.99

ebay ItemID = 172462256818

**not I am the seller
**please note (you have to clarify this): the seller didn't specify the coin and packaging condition
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 Posted 12/30/2016  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MoneyPenney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@commems, aftermarket success does add extra enjoyment to the hobby. It is not like collecting bottle caps or a leaf collection; coin collecting is expensive. You would like to see your collection as least maintain its value over the years. Which unfortunately is not the case. Just look at auctions and you will see you will be lucky to get 30% for the value of your collection.

Besides, it is a great feeling when you have a coin that you bought has double in value, even though you have no intention of selling it.
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 Posted 01/03/2017  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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2012 5 oz Silver Canadian Coin - Farewell to the Penny

Current bid: CAD 306 , Shipping: CAD 9.99

ebay ItemID = 172462256818


3+ hours to go, current bid: CAD 501

worth to try your luck, IMO
but a lot of bidders, actually....
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 Posted 01/03/2017  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Redzapsid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I for one, don't buy coins on ebay. Although you can check past sales on ebay, you can't do the same on many other selling platforms. Private sales on kijiji or other buy and sell sites, as well as brick and mortar coin shops etc. have sales all the time that go unrecorded. Although ebay records are better than nothing, I don't believe they always must represent current market value. I was thinking of selling my farewell to the penny collect in entirety, so I'm certainly curious to see what the final price is when the final bid is in. The 5 coin penny set is around $400 in my area. I haven't seen the 5 oz for sale in a long time locally.
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 Posted 01/03/2017  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I don't believe they always must represent current market value.


I will agree, but the key word here is "always"

market value - usually represented by fixed price, on the ebay / Kijiji or dealer's websites.
But the ebay auction clearly shows, what people are ready to pay.
In majority of cases - no one wants to pay "market price"

I would assume, the 5oz coin will go under CAD 570, and 5-coin set will be sold for CAD 390 max.
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 Posted 01/18/2017  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add New1954 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This big coin series is really, really nice! The bobcat is magnificent. I await the rest of the subscription.
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