1934\35 Melbourne Commemorative Florin - I Need Some Advise Please

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My thoughts - I think the one " you came across" is a counterfeit. Apart from the coin having a good dip, looking at the horse's bottom jaw/lip : the jaw/lip seems to be " hanging " too close to the horse's chest.

The rider's left arm is " unusual " from what is the norm, the horse's leg knuckles are " unusual ".

It also appears as though the horse's head is joined onto it's chest instead of having a clear visible gap.

If I can get the time, I should have a look at the MCFs I acquired in the 1960's. I believe they are " kosher ".

All/any input from as many contributers to ACC is invaluable to all of us.

I love this:
222923316187
$3200



The seller describes the damage thus:
'Mount pin smashed during minting creating clamp points on an already scarce high grade coin'

during minting uh huh

Is there a polite way to say to the seller -
'You're an idiot'

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I would agree that wreath detail is not a great discriminator - I've only seen a handful of coins with a wreath that could be described as better than indistinct.

Hi the first ebay florin is a fake. Its missing the design elements you should expect on a genuine coin. The cloak not quite touching and its rounded and the cloak missing a fold. Its much harder on the reverse as the elements are harder to spot other than the riders hand almost vanishing into the horse. And that can happen of worn coins. Once you know what to look for, they are really easy to spot though. I have a page full of these fakes in every denomination to compare. Fake Diameter 28.50mm same. Fake Weight 8.8385g should be 11.3100g.

Another key is the rough finish of the planchet leftover from the spark erosion machine EDM. Its hard to see in some of the images on ebay but under magnification in hand. They looks like its been soda blasted.

hope that helps.

The 1911 thing is of no interest to me, I now only collect rare key dates.
A handful of suspect shillings doesn't make much of a case.

Your post indicates that you did check that that stuff was silver,
which is more than you (or your published article) told me at the time.
It was all so secretive - quite odd in a forum that values info sharing & transparency.

To investigate that, hi res photos and test results were obviously needed,
- and absolutely nothing was ever provided.

I haven't seen any decent silver florin fakes, though if anyone wants to make a case,
a photo is an essential starting point - and I'd like to see it. (not the centenary though)
All counterfeit silver florins I have so far seen are obvious fakes.

There is good stuff on ebay, but not much. Most of the premium coins there are bad in one way or another.
Many here suggest the elite? Australian coin dealers but - no.
They, in my experience are also unpleasant to deal with..

You can find nice stuff a bit further afield.
https://www.kuenker.de/en/archiv/stueck/213405
That's a decent coin and the price was fair.

One ebay dealer here buys most of his old Australian coins from a London auctioneer
and resells them on AU ebay for a nice profit. I buy from the same place.

Effort is needed to find good stuff at fair prices.
Cheerio
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