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1956 D 1c Misplaced Mintmark

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I like the comparison images.

Here-s a possible related condition. I've noticed that on some years the MM has an incuse & irregular depression around it. I've come to believe these depressions are the result of residual metal being displaced when applying the MM (by hand) and not being removed by polishing the die face.

Does anyone have any input or evidence one way or the other they could share?
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Greg, I don't know if you are understanding what I am saying. With the new pics you have done, I feel like we are seeing two different date types, see what you think with your marked up pics. The 018 has a pointed tail, the 019 has a squared off tail and the upper part of the curve is turned slightly inward. What is odd, the squared off area showing in the VV pic does not show on yours. Could the 56 have two different date types and possibly even a third, the ODV-018 without the squared off area around the upper loop? Odd this this would have not been caught before now. What is odd though, the first and last examples of yours, the upper curve looks to be the same and the lower does not seem to match.

LINK to obverse types and changes. http://varietyvista.com/01a%20LC%20...arieties.htm


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the MM has an incuse & irregular depression around it.
So a damaged punch, on the outside?
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thanks makecents for the comparisons of the obverse dies, but the 2 you labeled as ODV-018 look different from each other. how can that be?
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Thanks Jon, yes I do see what your talking about. Before I posted this I tried looking up the design varieties and wasn't able to see the date for OBV-020, which this should be, so I didn't want to comment. Looking through the dates on the DDO's on VV it looks like there are indeed two different date designs.
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thanks makecents for the comparisons of the obverse dies, but the 2 you labeled as ODV-018 look different from each other. how can that be?
That was part of my observation.




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What is odd though, the first and last examples of yours, the upper curve looks to be the same and the lower does not seem to match.
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OBV-020, which this should be
Because there was no mention of date change I assumed it reverted back to 019. You know what assuming gets you though.
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So a damaged punch, on the outside?

Nope.
When the MM is applied to the die face, where does the displaced metal go?
If it "pops" up above the face of the die, it would need to be removed by die abrasion/polishing or there would be an incuse area on the die.

(But if the MM was close to the 9 in the date, the metal could be pushed toward/into the 9, altering it slightly..
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When the MM is applied to the die face, where does the displaced metal go?
Gotcha, that makes sense. I do not think it would turn the tip of the 9 square though, as I am trying to figure out.
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