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Hello all, long summer not much coins for me. But this showed up, whats your felling about it? XF? cleaned or not? Bad pics but only I got, I will be able to look on it inhand if it seems promising. Trusted seller so no worries there i like the diecrack on the date Would be nice to have a brother to my 1919-S   |
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United States
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Not a series I collect, but I'll take a stab and say AU50 straight grade.
Edited by adam126402
Yesterday 1:42 pm
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This looks like a nice coin.
There are a lot of things going on with the coin. It is definitely later die state, with the obverse and reverse die cracks and heavy metal flow lines. There has been quite a bit of die clash polishing, which explains the abraded shield and head. The strike is on the weaker side.
The photos are a bit tough for close evaluation, but this looks better than EF to my eyes. Considering the clash polishing, strike, and die state, I think the obverse is on the AU-50/AU-53 bubble, and the reverse is AU-50. Just based on these photos, I'd net it to AU-50. Others may well see this one differently.
I see some surface scratching on the devices, which suggests an older cleaning. It may be market acceptable, though. The photos aren't sharp enough to tell that part.
The spot on the obverse rim below the first "9" in the date and on the eagle's inner right wing (our visual left) need to be examined in hand. They could be the start of some corrosion, and that would raise the question of conservation. I don't see any serious concern from the photos, but it's always something to examine closely if you get the coin in hand.
If you examine this coin, look carefully at the mint mark. Altered (added) mint marks exist for this date. I don't think that's the case here, but the photo just isn't quite clear enough to see the area around the mint mark.
That's my best initial impression from these photos. Again, this looks like a nice coin.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Nice example! Given the images posted, I'm thinking low end AU.
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thank you for answers, you guys are the best. I get that the photos are tough to work with and that assessment is hard base on that Quote:
If you examine this coin, look carefully at the mint mark. Altered (added) mint marks exist for this date. I don't think that's the case here, but the photo just isn't quite clear enough to see the area around the mint mark. will likely check it out inhand and take more pics if so, hopefully it has luster left. the D is near in mintage with the 1919S I have. I didnt even notice diecrack on the rev but see it now, thru OF and CA. yes the spot on the wing concerns me to. Edited by Moniker
Yesterday 4:08 pm
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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I'm thinking AU.
Errers and Varietys.
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Bedrock of the Community
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i'd net this one to AU50 as well. FC has eagle eyes, I'm not seeing any signs the coin was cleaned. if it was I think it was so long ago and that it would pass. like FC stated Quote:
The photos aren't sharp enough to tell that part. . one area that has me more concerned, that wasnt commented on, is in the crease right under the shield drape running down the thight. take a close look at that, it could be the start of some corrosion FC commented about the MM could possibly be an issue. I looked at multiple 19D's and the MM on all of the ones I saw were all level. the MM on this coin is ever so slightly tilted up. this is a concern that really needs checked out that to determine if this is valid for the orientation of the MM for this year. Edited by panzaldi
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I can never go against fortcollins' fantastic analysis. AU it is.  |
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thanks guys, Quote:
FC commented about the MM could possibly be an issue. I looked at multiple 19D's and the MM on all of the ones I saw were all level. the MM on this coin is ever so slightly tilted up. this is a concern that really needs checked out that to determine if this is valid for the orientation of the MM for this year. will check for sure, might be picture to. Those diecracks should be present on some other 1919-D aswell edit could this be same die, I think I see a faint diecrack on obv looking similar to the one in op   found another one, look at crack on eagles right wing tip rules out added D? https://coins.ha.com/itm/standing-l...bnail-071515  Edited by Moniker
Today 1H 0M ago
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The reverse die crack is a solid match, and that should eliminate concerns about it being a 1919-D. Also, the altered mint mark coins I've seen for 1919 are fairly crudely done, with visible tool marks around the added mint mark.
Again, this looks like a nice coin. It will be good to see your photos when it comes in. This may end up better than AU-50, but that's as far as I could go with the seller's photos. The seller didn't do himself/herself any favors with those photos.
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The seller didn't do himself/herself any favors with those photos. This sometimes work in our favour. My main intrest is some other coins also for sale but will for sure check this one out. If it checks out I have a limit on 600S. There is very little info online on the slq dievariations. It looks like doubling on both examples on the wings arm Thank you FC Edited by Moniker
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