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20th Anniversary Set Slab Question

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I have seen that you can get a set of the 20th anniversary gold or silver sets in a special 3 coin holder. Most of the coins sold on ebay are individual coins, probably pieced together from multiple sets.

My question is this, if you have three individual NGC slabbed 20th anniversary coins graded 70 (lets say gold coins), can you send these individual slabs back to NGC and have them put them in the three coin holder 20th anniversary slab? And if not, why not?

Thanks.
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I'm certainly no expert on anything coin related yet, but I can tell you what I've read in previous posts. Can't find it right now, but, it's my understanding that in order to have the "set" graded, you need to send it in before you even remove packaging paper from the mint!!! I also think I remember someone mentioning that each "set" will then have some kind of distinguishing band or tape to tell you that they were graded together.

I don't know the reason why, sorry. Hope this tidbit of info helps.

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TPG's require that you send the sets unopened. The reason for this, is to prevent someone who it piecing together a set with individually sold uncirculated and/or proof eagles. If someone has a 20th anniversary set with a PF70 Reverse Proof and the uncirculated and proof are a lower grade, this prevents people from switching the coins with ones they could buy from the mint that might get a 70 as a grade. If you open a set and submit it for grading, you are only guaranteed to receive a 20th anniversary grade for the Reverse Proof, since it is impossible to tell if the other two coins came with the set or if they were added in.
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quote:
Originally posted by Guido

I have seen that you can get a set of the 20th anniversary gold or silver sets in a special 3 coin holder. Most of the coins sold on ebay are individual coins, probably pieced together from multiple sets.

My question is this, if you have three individual NGC slabbed 20th anniversary coins graded 70 (lets say gold coins), can you send these individual slabs back to NGC and have them put them in the three coin holder 20th anniversary slab? And if not, why not?

Thanks.




I think the other two posters misunderstood your question.
If you have three coins ALREADY in 20th Anniv NGC holders, you want to see if they can be put in a NGC multi-coin holder with the 20th Anniv certification, correct?

If that is what you want to know, then that should not be a problem for NGC to do. They would charge $5 per coin reholdering fee for that.
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But why would you want to do that? I think when it comes to resale, more people would prefer the individual coin holders. Maybe, take a poll but personally, I would never buy a multi holder.
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Yes you can if you have a set in the black lable holders. It would be a simple change of holders. If you have a "raw" set then they have to be sealed in the box that the mint sent them in.
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quote:
Originally posted by biokemist6

quote:
Originally posted by Guido

I have seen that you can get a set of the 20th anniversary gold or silver sets in a special 3 coin holder. Most of the coins sold on ebay are individual coins, probably pieced together from multiple sets.

My question is this, if you have three individual NGC slabbed 20th anniversary coins graded 70 (lets say gold coins), can you send these individual slabs back to NGC and have them put them in the three coin holder 20th anniversary slab? And if not, why not?

Thanks.




I think the other two posters misunderstood your question.
If you have three coins ALREADY in 20th Anniv NGC holders, you want to see if they can be put in a NGC multi-coin holder with the 20th Anniv certification, correct?

If that is what you want to know, then that should not be a problem for NGC to do. They would charge $5 per coin reholdering fee for that.



Yes, that was my question. So yes, assume that all three coins are slabbed separately, with the blue 20th anniversary labels designating them as a set.

My reason for asking is that I have seen very few of these in the three coin holders and I like the way it looks.

Andrew,

Why wouldn't you buy a set all together? They came as a set, so why not keep them that way? And years from now, the value of the entire set will be much higher than the individual coins (although the reverse proof will always be the key), but I guess a set is a set, no matter how it's presented. I think the presentation looks nicer if they are all together in one holder. Otherwise you have three separate slabs that are just that. Whats so special about that? The three coin hold makes it more special to me. Just my opinion, though.
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quote:

Originally posted by Andrew289
But why would you want to do that? I think when it comes to resale, more people would prefer the individual coin holders. Maybe, take a poll but personally, I would never buy a multi holder.


Well if you have a set of 70 from 3 different sets. Maybe putting them in a multi-holders and then going back to single holders give you consecutive slab numbers for your resale.

It is easier to give as a gift in multi-coin holder as well.



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But if you have them re-holdered, wouldn't they use the same slab number? Or do they change them if you re-holder them? Interesting question. I would for sure do the three coin holder if I could get consecutive numbers. That would be cool!

EDIT, here is a link to a set of 4 gold eagles in one holder. I couldn't find a set of the gold anniversary coins anywhere on ebay, although I remember seeing one some time back (other than on one of the TV coin shows). It just looks so much better than individual slabs to me. But I think the wood thingy makes it look pretty nice too!

This slab shows the nummbers consecutively, so maybe they do renumber them if you send them back in?

http://cgi.ebay.com/2006-GOLD-EAGLE...KE_W0QQitemZ170060650936QQihZ007QQcategoryZ523QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

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It does come down to personal taste and yeah, a set is a set. I think the individual holder is more attractive to the buyer. Say the buyer only needs the reverse proof and he finds, as is often the case, that it's cheaper to buy a set. If they are all in one holder, he is less likely to buy it and that limits the pool of potential buyers. I always try to keep resale in mind.

Sure, they make an NGC multicoin holder boxes and there are those that like the look but personally, I would want the buyer to have as many options available to him.
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Here is a link to a silver eagle three holder set. I don't know if what he says it true (I tried calling NGC and they are closed for the holiday about the dealers, but it does make some sense, I guess. Very nice looking set, but at $400 for a 69 grade, that seems like a pretty high premium:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...15&rd=1&rd=1
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