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TPG Submission Of Unofficial Coinage/Tokens

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I have an 1837 Feuchtwanger hard times 1c token. I was thinking of submitting it to one of the big 3 for grading. I know ANACS has a separate price for non-us mint coins. Does this include pieces such as hard times tokens since they weren't official US MINT pieces, or would it still be submitted as a US piece because it was made by and for the American public, albeit privately.

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I think you can submit it under US coins as a token. You better call them to make sure. If you submit it economy you have to submit 5 coins min. but if you only want to submit this coin then you send it in-15 day for $19.
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Having collected tokens for nigh on fifty years now, this is one that I'd refrain from submitting to a TPG. It's a problem-free XF piece; a desirable Hard Times era token. Most token collectors I've encountered tend to prefer owning non-slabbed tokens in grades below Unc, especially. That said, there are a number of varieties of this issue, some of which are more scarce than others. Rulau's token book, now out of print, lists the varieties. The last two XF's I bought were in the $120-160 range at shows. They typically retail now in the $180-225 range, I've observed. Handle it with care and enjoy! Feuchtwanger was a visionary, twenty years ahead of his time with this non-flying eagle cent.
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This is one of my favorite pieces in my collection. It was originally slabbed by anacs I think. The previous owner cracked it out because the slab was damaged (iirc). I'm considering getting a small group of pieces slabbed for insurance purposes. This coin wont be re-sold in my lifetime, if I have anything to say about it.
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Isn't the pic sufficient for insurance purposes? How might certification help with that?

I can appreciate having records of certified coins that might be stolen, but a smart thief would crack out the coin/token before selling it. Of course, many thieves aren't all that smart, so certificaton could then be a plus.
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Im only getting a handful slabbed, less than 10. To show that there are in fact high value pieces in the collection. Slabbing would also provide proof of physical ownership rather than just a bunch on intangible photos. And removes a certain level of sujectivity as to value. It would be easier to pinpoint the replacement value of a coin where the condition has been professoinally evauated and stated as fact rather than dispute the grade of a photograph.
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