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 Posted 10/30/2011  3:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok here are a couple more coins that I could use your expert help with attribution so I can be sure that they are right.
-these coins are soaking in olive oil right now with about 50 others. I think they are going to turn out all right.


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I really like the portrait on this one and his beard. I think the first one is aerulian, and the second is a galanius?

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 Posted 10/30/2011  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This will be about the 4th or 5th time I have cleaned these.
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I wanted to reply before bobbyhelmet had a chance even though I haven't fully attributed them yet. The first is an Aurelianus I believe and the second is Gallienus. I be back with the RIC attribution momentarily.
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OK thanks JW these coins are about as good as they get so I'm soaking them in olive oil, then using a toothbrush on them one more time before they get their final home in a plastic flip.
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yeah I'm gonna try it when I go back to school in january in a kiln for pottery, with a coin from one of my uncleaned lots I get.
Seriously, I would avoid trying that! Pottery kilns easily get over 2000 degrees F, which exceeds the melting point for many copper alloys. You could end up with a pool of metal, or even a small explosion if the interior of the coin contains corrosion and water.
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The second coin is:

RIC 507k Antoninianus Obv: GALLIENVSAVG - Radiate head right.
Rev: PIETASAVG - Pietas standing by lit altar, hands raised and outspread. 260-268 (Mediolanum).

Now let me work on the first coin.

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The first coin is:

RIC 129 Aurelian AE Antonininus. Mediolanum (Milan) mint, 272-274 AD. IMP AVRELIANVS AVG, radiate cuirassed bust right / IOVI CONSER, emperor standing right, holding sceptre or spear, receiving a globe from Jupiter standing opposite holding sceptre, P, in exergue

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 Posted 10/30/2011  4:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I wanted to reply before bobbyhelmet had a chance


Haha, these are all yours mate. I'm going to stop attributing 2nd and 3rd century coins if the post is less than 24 hours old as I'm pretty comfortable with them now, I need to start learning about the earlier and later coins, of which I know little but my interest is growing.

Attribution is by far the best way to learn and it gets people familiar with the main resources. I'd recommend all beginners give it a go as even though it looks daunting its really not.

On another note my decision to 'stop buying' has failed badly and I've picked up about another 25 coins so I should be able to make some interesting posts when they arrive.

You've done a good job of cleaning these jessvc1, you've brought the detail out without over cleaning them

Sadly, my attempts are rarely this good.
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thanks alot guys I sure like to get you some practice, I learn alot from them too but seem to be really slow right now. I've decided that I probably wont try to use a kiln with my coins thanks for bringing that to my attention, sounds like that could be dangerous.
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what would you grade these coins, I haven't got the hang of grading ancients and what do they look for when they grade. thanks again and I appreciate your help and expertise.
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Grading Ancients is tough and, I believe, very subjective. I'm not sure there is truly any definitive source for grading. At least I don't know of any. If I were selling your coins I would list the Aurelianus as Good to Fine, the Tacitus as Good, and the Licinius as Poor. But, once again, those would be my grading based on what I know of Ancients, not on any particular source. Perhaps someone else can chime in and be more specific.

Regards,

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 Posted 10/30/2011  4:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I haven't got the hang of grading ancients and what do they look for when they grade


Cant really help you here - I dont know anyone who can / does grade ancients in an accurate or meaningful way, some of the 'old boys' who were around in the days when pictures were not always shown when coins were auctioned might be able to help you here.

My coins are only graded as 'keepers' or 'sellers' - I'd say both of yours were 'keepers'

The day slabs and 70 point grading becomes the norm is the day I sell all my coins and look for something simpler to enjoy
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my decision to 'stop buying' has failed badly and I've picked up about another 25 coins


Its good to know I'm not the only one with this problem
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would this be right for this coin its 19.5mm I just used some elmers glue and it worked fine for now.
Constantine I AE Follis. 3.30 gr, 20.05 mm. Arles. 315-316 AD. IMP CONSTANTINVS PF AVG, laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right / SOLI INV-I-CTO COMITI, Sol standing right, looking left, chlamys across left, holding globe and raising right hand. S-F across fields. Mintmark PARL. RIC VII Arles 63


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 Posted 10/30/2011  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wow look at the details in the ear and hair, WHY THIS COIN...WHY? Its still one of my favorites from my uncleaned lots
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