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Pictures Enhance / Disguise Cleaning

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 Posted 10/31/2011  10:26 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Lobby to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Folks, I've got two Morgans. Both show signs of cleaning, and I'd love your opinion.

This 1898, in my hands, looks obviously polished. You know, lemon pledge rubbed? Yet in the pic, it doesn't look that bad. Thoughts?

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This 1900 O, in my hands, looked pretty clean. Yet after taking the pic, well, ugh!

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There's some learning in all of this, but I'm not sure what it is.


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 Posted 10/31/2011  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cd_god to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the magic of ebay.

As discussed in previous threads some sellers can manipulate their photos to make their coins look awesome (of course yours was purely accidental)


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 Posted 10/31/2011  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lighting is like a magic elixir. While I am learning much about photographing coins, and I do sell on ebay, I'm not into it to make enemies and fill my life with endless arguing and endless mailing stuff back and forth, making refunds.....all of the stuff that some don't seem averse to do ... is a waste of my time, and a waste of the resources of my prospective customer.

It is possible to be both a good photographer, and a good seller as well. I've been on ebay since 1995. The bums don't last that long.

I can use light to make a coin look great, but don't juice my photos for listings. I usually show different shots of the same coin and point out any shortcomings.

In short ... intense lighting obscures defects.

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 Posted 10/31/2011  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lobby to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe I should have started the thread in the photography sub forum...
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 Posted 11/01/2011  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No need - I read.this forum too. . I'm on my cellphone and can't see the first coin well, but the second shows hairlines that might only be visible from one specific lighting angle.

I'll show you something I did to a Morgan in postprocessing tomorrow morning.
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As you can see, you don't need to Photoshop a coin image to have a misleading picture. Sort of like what you are dealing with, I've had as much trouble photographing a coin without it turning out looking worse than the real thing than I have making the coin look too good.
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I'll show you something I did to a Morgan in postprocessing tomorrow morning.


I'm not 100% sure but superdave may be talking about this coin he brought up in a similar thread I started a while back:

https://goccf.com/t/66322#523932
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 Posted 11/01/2011  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lobby to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Man, does lighting ever make a difference!

This is the same 1898 Morgan in the original post. The one I think looks polished (in my hand).

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Ya'll are starting to see the "shinyness" of the coin now.

Oh, this was natural light
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 Posted 11/01/2011  4:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Larryh86GT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It appears an expert photographer could put any spin he wanted on a coin doesn't it?
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That's quite a difference in the two pix. It certainly looks shiny but I still don't see hairlines like the other coin.

Getting the hairlines to show up I'm sure has to do with what direction the light is coming from. The closer to perpendicular you are the more pronounced they will be. Maybe if you take several pix of the coin, rotating it 45* or so each time, you'll eventually get them to show up or disappear.

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