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 Posted 11/01/2011  11:03 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add PeterF to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Can anyone identify this object? It is quite heavy and is possibly gold

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 Posted 11/01/2011  5:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alganbagerap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like a Nazarana Rupee from one of the Indian Princely states, but I thought that they were usually silver. Could you give size and weight?
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 Posted 11/01/2011  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add agandau to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome Peter,

It looks like a gold mohur from the Bengal Presidency, minted in Murshidabad, India and along the way it has had loops attached to possibly wear as jewellry.

Listed as
KM# 113 12.36 grams 0.917 Gold

It is valuable enough as gold alone, but unfortunately the attached loops remove the numismatic premium it would have carried as a coin alone. Still a gold mohur is a gold mohur. Very good.

Edited - I thought there were two coins but changed the tense to singular.
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11/01/2011 10:37 pm
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 Posted 11/02/2011  08:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PeterF to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, Agandau,

After posting my query yesterday I found coins resembling it in the Yashoda Singh collection at http://www.baldwin.co.uk. Your reply has confirmed it.
As a newbie here, may I ask some questions: What does "listed as KM# 113" mean? How much difference do the jewellery loops make to its value? Can they be removed?

Thank you again for your help.

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 Posted 11/02/2011  08:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What does "listed as KM# 113" mean?

It's a catalogue reference. "KM" is shorthand for "The Standard Catalog of World Coins" by Krause. It's used to identify the specific type of coin, especially helpful if, as in this case, there are several different coins that are superficially similar. Here is the NGC data page (which uses the data from the Krause catalogue) for your coin, India-Bengal Presidency KM#113.

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How much difference do the jewellery loops make to its value?

It does depend on how severe the actual damage to the coin is, but the usual answer is, "a lot of difference". As agandau said, for a relatively common coin such as this, the attached loops effectively destroy it's appeal to a coin collector.

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Can they be removed?

It does depend on the skill of the jeweller who first made it, but the usual answer is "no". The usual method for attaching loops is to sand off part of the surface of the coin where the loop is to be affixed, then solder the loop in place with an alloy not too dissimilar to the alloy the actual coin is made of. The boundary between loop and coin is deliberately blurred during this process, in order to make sure the loop attachment doesn't just fall off again, but in doing so the coin is irrevocably damaged.

The stains on your coin near where the loops are attached tell me these have indeed been soldered on.
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from the look of it & shine, it surely has a fair amount of gold in it, but has to apply some chemicals to make sure..at a small spot.
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