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Lacquered Large Cent: A Job For Ncs?

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 Posted 11/01/2011  12:36 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add rexvictor to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello eveyone,

I recently purchased a beautiful Ceylon 1892 5 cent in AU condition. It's one of my favorite coins but I believe it has lacquer on it. Is this a job for NCS? Has anyone had experience with them removing lacquer on copper and holdering the coin? Please share your thoughts.

I'm actually not 100% sure it is lacquer--is there anything to lose by letting it soak in Verdi-Care for awhile?

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rexvictor
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I would think a soak in acetone would be the way to go. I had an old Indian Head cent that used to be glued into a key chain and a lot of the glue was still all over the reverse. Within a minute or two of putting it in acetone, the glue had totally dissolved leaving the coin "clean" (in the good way!).
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Let's see the "beautiful Ceylon 1892 5 cent in AU condition"!

When I think of "Ceylon", I think of Battlestar Galactica...no offense!

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Uh, Cylon.

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I agree, acetone is probably the best course of action. However, I will defer to the conservation experts.
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 Posted 11/01/2011  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
jbuck, curious...are they (Cylon and Ceylon) pronounced the same?
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Nope.

Cylon is ˈsī-län ('cy' is like 'sigh')

Ceylon is si-ˈlän ('cey' is like the 'si' in silly) or sā-ˈlän ('cey' is like 'say')

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Maybe we should just say Sri Lanka to save the Battlestar Galactica fans the confusion!
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You could, but the coin in question is dated 1892, eighty years before the name change.
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 Posted 11/02/2011  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rexvictor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the replies--hope the pictures help! I want to take the best route for this really awesome coin, which is 34mm and really thick!



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 Posted 11/02/2011  12:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rexvictor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Found a proof of 1890...many similarities underneath the surface coating of mine:

http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotvi...c2cfa81341ce
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 Posted 11/02/2011  12:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gitano to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello folks. I don't want to hijack the the thread but I am new here and looking for a little help on a topic close to this one. If you can point me in the right direction I'll not bother you further.

I recently inherited a belt buckle on which my Dad epoxied half-a-dozen Morgan dollars. I loved my Dad dearly, but this "thing" is REALLY ugly and I would like to see the coins returned to something more in line with their history, so I have two questions:

1) Can you tell me how to remove the coins without damaging them?
If the answer to "1" is "get a professional to do it", then
2) Can you point me to a professional that can do it?

I have seen reference to "NCS" which I assume means Numismatic Conservation Services or something of the sort, but I do not find them with a google search of "NCS".

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Paul
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I bought 5 large cents from a seller in Missouri, and after getting the first one, I reallized that it had been coated with varnish or lacquer. I used lacquer thinner and it melted right away. Then soaked it in acetone for a few minutes and patted it dry. I got the 4 others today, and while they too had been clearcoated at some point, they also have a fine film of PVC contamnant on them. Don't fool yourself....those staple type coin holders will damage a coin left in them for 40 years if they aren't kept dry.

I've been applying zip strip and letting it work for 15 minutes or so, soaking up the stripper with a paper towel, blotting it with pressure which is lifting the pvc from the coin. I'm finished with 2 of them and they came out well. I'll be posting pictures of them when I'm done in the classic coins sub category, in the thread "Large Cents 2 acquisitions for my Dansco" or something to that effect.

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I didn't know until I just looked it up, Ceylon is now called Sri Lanka. A small island off of the coast of India.
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Always start any conservation project by following the solvent polarity ladder. Soak in the following, in a covered, glass vessel for 24 hours each:

1) distilled water
2) aectone
3) xylene
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