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Cleaning Ancient Coins

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I have some skills with cleaning but there are some coins I cant clean. Here is exaple nuber 1:

Cleaning-Ancient-Coins

Cleaning-Ancient-Coins

Probus soli invicto cyzicus mint... it is uncleaned. Under very hard dirt I see almost full and strong silvering. But.. I see bronze disease on imperators head. This was very hard one for me to clean. Dont know what to do.
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I dont have as much experience as many on here regards cleaning but the only thing that I've found that works well on all coins is warmed distilled water and the very careful use of dental picks, diamond encrusted tools and small nylon and brass wire brushes etc.

Its very, very, very time-consuming and labour intensive but the results are always good and with all other types of cleaning (olive oil, lemon juice, H202, electrolysis, coke, etc) I've damaged coins or not got the results I wanted. If you like good patinas, silvering and cleaning coins so 0% damage is done to them I see this as the only option unfortunately.

I buy very few uncleaned coins because it this - If I damage them while cleaning it annoys me, a lot, If I buy cleaned I have no idea what the coin could have looked like, I just know what it looks like now. Not a great answer but the only advice I can give.

I'm cleaning a silvered coin atm - see this thread:

https://goccf.com/t/101243

Its a slow process of letting it soak in distilled water, warmed if possible and gently rubbing it every now and then. I also pick at the bigger encrustations when they start to loosen. I could clean it quicker but I would loose the silvering and I always feel bad about that!
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From what I've found out about BD is that it usually goes into the coin and the best you can do is pick at it with a piece of metal until you get the green off/out of the coin. I use electrolysis on the hard stuff that is stuck to the coin but I think it might take some or all of the silvering off. The best way to use electrolysis is a little at a time. It usually takes a few times of 10-15 minutes each and sometimes after the first try the crusty stuff can easily be picked off the coin sometimes in large chunks like on my diocletian(these usually end up the best coins), then I take a dental pick and a jewelers loupe and press(not scratch) on the the stuff that is left and if its ready to come off the pick will crush it and it will just wipe off. If not soak it in what ever you choose to use(olive oil or water and dish soap) and do this all over again sometimes a few times. If you use electrolysis you have to coat the coin with paint, wax or something to cover the metal when you are done.
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jessvc1 is correct about bronze disease - It needs to be picked out using pins etc and then the coin should be soaked in distilled water to try and draw out of the coin the elements that have caused it.

This thread may help - it contains a coin I treated about as carefully as I could:

https://goccf.com/t/100564
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I prefere mechanical ways to clean coins, but if there is some chemical way to move only this bronze cancer I need to know. Other coin parts I will clean mechanical.
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Cleaning-Ancient-Coins

Another coin I cant clean. Probably barbaric imitation of some late roman or early bizantine coin. Have something white on him and it is hard to clean even mechanical way.
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