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 Posted 11/02/2011  3:30 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am considering the purchase of at least one of the below coins. The first three I can have for around $40 and the last around $28. First, do you think they are worth the price and second if you had to prioritize, which would be first and so on. Thanks for your input.

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 Posted 11/02/2011  3:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd place them in the order presented and consider each appropriate to just a bit high in price. The Elagabalus has a very nice reverse but the obverse is from a worn die. Otherwise it would be exceptional. Were the Postumus $20, it would jump to first place in my opinion but that is what this is: opinion. None of these are more than a few dollars out of line either way mostly depending on who is selling and who is buying.
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 Posted 11/02/2011  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Caesar381 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Elagabalus and severus are worth 10-20$ each. Caracalla(second coin) is good for that price. But,i think last one is the best... Can we get better picture of last coin? Can you zoom it?
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 Posted 11/02/2011  4:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would buy all three. But seeing that you are only buying one I would go for the Postumus.
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 Posted 11/02/2011  4:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have no idea how that picture of the Postumus coin got so small. Here is another and hopefully it will stay large as the other images.

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 Posted 11/02/2011  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Caesar381 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice... I pick postumus and caracalla :)
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 Posted 11/02/2011  4:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just based on details, I would pick the 3rd coin, all else equal.
I'm trying to get a handle on these inscriptions...does that one say Severus?
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DVCollector it is septimus severus
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IMO the septimus severus looks really good. Not too bad of a postumus either. It all depends on what you already have is what it would boil down to if I was in your position.
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 Posted 11/02/2011  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Caesar381 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah,but it is much expensiver then his catalogue value. Of course, it is not bad coin. All coins here are nice if you ask me.
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 Posted 11/02/2011  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree all beautiful specimens.
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 Posted 11/02/2011  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The thing is that I have nice coins of each of these rulers. Several. Here are the nicest of the ones I already have:



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I'm just not sure if I need another of any of these rulers or that the coins for sale are near as nice as the ones I already have. I know I'm sounding like a woman in a shoe shop. Oh well.

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well then it depends on which reverse you would want to add to your collection. they are all nice and I think the first one is the most detailed.
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 Posted 11/02/2011  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gil-galad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think perhaps that owning a second coin with a different reverse is good. Some reverses I really like, like the first coin you took a photo of at the beginning of the thread. I tried attributing the coin as best as I could.

I tried breaking the words down as best as I could.

Obverse Legend:

IMP ANTONINVS PIVS AVG

IMP = Imperator

Antoninus - not sure why they use this name when it's a Elagabalus.

PIVS = sobriquet pius

AVG = Augustus "Revered One"

Obverse Device: laureate draped bust right.

Reverse Legend:


ABVNDANTIA AVG

Abundantia - the goddess of abundance and plenty.

Reverse Device:

Goddess Abundantia with a cornucopia, dumping it's contents.

The goddess on the coin signifies the blessing of plenty upon his reign and the golden age.

Final Attribution:

Elagabalus Denarius. Rome, AD 220-221.

RIC 56, RSC 1a, BMC 189


After trying to attribute the coin, I finally found a match at wildwinds.com . I doubt I would have been able to without it.

I hope you guys don't mind me doing this. This is the first one I've done and I'd like some pointers too. Thanks.



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 Posted 11/02/2011  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All nice and the prices are OK in a 'take it or leave it' situation.

As Doug as already said were it not for the soapy obverse on the Elagabalus I would snap the dealers hands off. Even with the obverse problems I would struggle not to buy it for the excellent reverse at this price.

The Postumus is nice but I think a bit too high at that price, its also not as nice as the one you have. I'd say you could pick one of these up for $15-20 on ebay. I've long thought Postumus coins are overpriced but not sure why.

Out of the other two I think the Severus has the most charm and although no better than your own its certainly no worse. It has eye appeal and I'd go for it.
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 Posted 11/02/2011  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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After trying to attribute the coin, I finally found a match at wildwinds.com


I do believe you are killing yourself trying to attribute. Let me tell you how I might try to attribute the first coin. This is just a first step so those of you who know that wildwinds has some attribution problems as well as not all coins are listed there, I know this.

Since you can read the legend on the first coin and you know the reverse figure is Abuntantia, go to the wildwinds page for Elagabalus and use the search function (ctrl + F) and type Abuntantia. This will narrow your search down to only those coins with that reverse. Its much easier then you might think. Give it a try. There should only be two possibilities and a quick look will tell you this is RIC 56. Try it with one of the other coins
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