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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Hi everyone, just wondering if I could get some help with value/rarity and if there is a name to this error.
It is most pronounced in the "OF AMERICA". The lettering is touching and is actually part of the rim.
Thank you
Kris
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Can you post a picture?
Usually this is caused by the coin being pressed up against another in a vise, but we'll have a better idea if we can see the coin.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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sorry I keep getting this error message when trying to upload file
Request object error 'ASP 0104 : 80004005'
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I see what you're looking at. That happens because of die wear I think. It's common and is not considered an error.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
933 Posts |
hey Captainfwiffo thanks for the reply,
it is very hard to get a good picture of this coin as it is very brilliant.
but under the right light and 9x, the bottom of all letters in America are part of the rim.
does that change anything or still same answer
thanks
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4132 Posts |
Yeah, that's pretty common. It's only worth a nickel.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4897 Posts |
I agree with the Captain. LDS (Late die state)
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
933 Posts |
here is a better image showing the letters sticking up on rim  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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i also agree, I've found a bunch of these when I roll search.
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Valued Member
United States
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From the tittle, it sounds like there's actual lettering on the rim itself, ie US Presidential dollars. |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I think the terminology is being used correctly here. The two terms do get confused at times. Presidential dollars have the lettering on the edge not on the rim. The rim is the raised lip running around the outside of the obverse and the reverse. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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In this case I think the problem is a worn out and spreading hub, probably the master hub. This tends to happen every few years from continued use of the master hub. The whole hub spreads and the lettering gets a little closer to the rim each year. Eventually a new master is made sharpening the details and moving the lettering back in away from the rim again. The sharpened the hubs in 1973, again in 1977, and again in 1982.
The change in 1982 is quite noticeable and unlike most years the change did not start at the beginning of the year so you can find 1982 nickels with both hub types and four different hub pairings (81/81, 81/82, 82/81, and 82/82) from both Denver and Philadelphia. San Francisco also comes with both hub types but I don't know if all four pairings are available or just type 81/81 and 82/82. It always struck me as odd that such a big deal was made over the type I and II mintmarks in 79 and 81, when the 81 and 82 type hubs were a much more major and visible difference in the 82 sets.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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appreciate the help
thanks
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