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Newbie Trying To Learn About 1927 Florin

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 Posted 11/14/2011  7:28 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add erkle to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
in particular the striking of it.1927 commemorative parliament house coin.
why I ask, just this morning I received one I brought from the US.
now when I started to research the coin, I searched many forums, this one included, along with coin sites.during that search, I read that there was a first strike, this strike did not show a lot of detail in the steps and other bits, so they retooled and commenced the full production? is this correct

the first strike was a smallish amount of 4k?
how can/could I distinguish the difference between the first and second striking?

i did buy the coin at a premium if it is not what I think it is, as above, but it is unc and as a newb I would think that it is choice or better, it is untarnished and even in shine, to the naked eye some dirt is in the rim grooving?
pics or scans will follow today sometime, I'm a bit of a troglodyte when it comes to close ups with the camera or using the scanner.
thanks for any advice and or tips given
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 Posted 11/14/2011  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Australian coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, yes the coin book I looked at said there is a trial coin. "uniface coin"
Funny thing is I had never looked at that page before, so I have learned something today.
No pics in the book, so it is hard to know what you are supposed to look for in the coin.
Did a picture search and here are the results.
There isn't no variations that anyone knows of in the coins themselves with "detail in the steps"

Normal coin
http://museumvictoria.com.au/collec...stralia-1927

Proof coin
http://museumvictoria.com.au/collec...stralia-1927

1927 Uniface obverse Florin
http://www.bluesheet.com.au/Austral...obverse_(PR)

Other Uniface florin
http://museumvictoria.com.au/collec...stralia-1937

Other topics
https://goccf.com/t/62366

Please feel free to post pictures of your coin :)
You may have found something rare
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 Posted 11/14/2011  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erkle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
currently uploading some pics to pb, its going to take a while as I went highest resolution for everything I could
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 Posted 11/14/2011  9:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erkle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i hope these work and are not to big

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 Posted 11/14/2011  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Australian coin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow that is one nice coin.
No marks on the surface and no dings around the edge.
Your coin is really shiny and quite difficult to spot detail of the steps and other parts, I am going to be annoying and ask can you take a pic with some sort of shadowing, so you can really see the depth of the detail.
Anyway the best picture on the net is on this page >> complete with zoom in option you can really get in and have a good look. Go Crazy :)
http://www.sterlingcurrency.com.au/...ce-unc-ms-63
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 Posted 11/14/2011  10:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Erkle, a coin that nice deserves a premium. See the one in AC's link.
This was Oz's first commemorative, and has always been a "key" in the pre-decimal series.

"uniface" means struck on one face only, so you'd have no trouble identifying that one.

AC: that is a nice pic !
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 Posted 11/14/2011  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erkle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
that pic at the end of the link is brilliant, if only I knew how, but I will have another go later today.
what sort of value would/could this be worth, I paid under $200 delivered, it was meant for another purpose, but could be to valuable for that
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 Posted 11/15/2011  01:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erkle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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forgot this one, might show the steps better for you?
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 Posted 11/15/2011  01:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erkle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
um try opening this in a new tab, its the size of pic I thought I took :) as I said I'm not real good with cameras
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hpho...211187_n.jpg
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 Posted 11/15/2011  03:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve - Oz 50c man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
a great looking coin for sure. I can only see two steps in the scans - is this the same in real life? a true UNC would show three. I couldn't find any reference to the change in the dies, but then I don't have a lot of info on pre-decimal coins. But if you are right this may be one of them... good luck!
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 Posted 11/15/2011  07:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin looks UNC/CH-UNC to me, however it appears to be have been cleaned and/or polished, there seems to be evidence of old toning at 1pm on the obverse.
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this shows 2 of the steps clearly,the line of the third is visible, but it still doesn't show the full quality
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hpho...534478_n.jpg
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 Posted 11/15/2011  2:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve - Oz 50c man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ahhh, yes I can see the third in that photo
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I have had a really good look at your coin, and can not find anything that says that it is different to a normal parliament house coin.
It has been cleaned at some point, which is a shame, but there is some lustre coming back.
Details that can be seen are the lines in the window frames, and the steps, plus a few small marks.
If you are talking a picture with a USB camera, like I do, you can create a shadow over the coin by putting your hand or piece of paper near it.
As shown below, then you can really see all the details and imperfections of the coin.

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