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1814 Capped Bust Half - Clashed Dies!

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Getting ready for Moe's party in Dec (http://goccf.com/t/102557-everybody's invited) I came across this. Don't care what the grade is (but will appreciate any input) - I just like all the clash marks. To the Overton experts, is this O-105?

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Here's some of the clash marks. I'm sure you'll find more.

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Looks VF 25ish to me ... and I really like the clashing, though the one SuperDave has, or at least has a picture of, is the most extreme I've seen.

Really nice piece of history there. It has a charm all it's own like so many of the early silver coins.

I wish my 1811/09 dime was in lots better condition, but they only struck 20 thousand and on one pair of dies that were ready for the trash heap. It has a similar charm even though it's terribly worn.

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Nice clashed Bust half Jeff.
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Those are really great die clashes. I just got my Overton book last night so I am no expert, but I believe you have an O-108. You can see that the E in States was cut over An A. You can see the base of an A between the E & S.
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I believe you have an O-108. You can see that the E in States was cut over An A. You can see the base of an A between the E & S.

Good call nolawyer. I thought it seemed too easy.

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Also - Dot at inner point of star 2

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I'm leaning towards O-106a, love those clashes and die cracks. VF-20.
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I'm leaning towards O-106a

I must still defer to nolawyer. 106a rev - "Left sides of T-I are in line" Also the EoverA doesn't show up until 108.

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First, Jeffrose, that is an amazing coin!

Second, I can't wait for the "32 days of Capped Bust half dollars" REVISITED coming on the 1st of December! Thank you for helping to remind folks about it!


Third: Did I say I REALLY like this coin type?!



This is my 1814 CBH I think is an Overton of O-108a.


I see many characteristics of yours (I always thought the marks to the right of the bust on the obverse were PMD...)

Thoughts?


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This is my 1814 CBH I think is an Overton of O-108a
I agree . . on mine the die crack from rim to curls across 4 is just starting to show. Yours is much more evident. Can't see on your pics but do you have the 3 bars from the shield stripes at the ear?

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Did I say I REALLY like this coin type?!
I think we both may have mentioned this in the past.

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Thank you for helping to remind folks about it!
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do you have the 3 bars from the shield stripes at the ear?



That's a good question...


I pulled out the coin again and tried to get some closer pictures. (My photographic equipment, unfortunately, is weak and lacks focus...)

Here's my best shot at it. I see something there...


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I'm a little patial to busties
This is my best guess VF-25
Definatly o-108.
Obverse: star 1 between denticles, star 7 center, star 8 lower half of denticle, star13 scalloped point. In the date the second 1 is lower than the first 1. there is a tiny round dot attached to the inner point of star 2.
Reverse: 1st A is pointing to the lower half of the denticle, A2 points to the upper half of denticle, A3 points to the upper end. now this is where I might have a small problem, it looks between to me. E in states is over an A. you can see the bottom of the A between E & S. there is a bold defect line crossing the upper pair of olive leaves. there is a die crack crossing the leaves, tip of wing to un in UNITED. nice die crack base of ED through STATES to the middle of F. the upper notch of N in UNITED is partly filled. the relationship of T and I is the right sides are in line. and last the lower right serif of F is recut.
Nice pics. Good digostic pics.

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Very cool Clashed varieties,it was great to see these examples up close!
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