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I recently found a 1812 half bust, half dollar. It has BRB imprinted under the eagle shield and below the left wing of the eagle. Also, there appears to be something that looks at a drape below the e pluibus unum. I took the coin to a local dealer who confirmed the initials and the draping. He was stumped, he never heard of such a 1812 1/2 dollar. He advised me to ask online about this coin. Does anyone have any ideas.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Can you post pictures? It would make it a LOT easier to help you. The initials might be a counter stamp. They were commonly done by people in the 19th century. They were not done by the mint but by private citizens. Some people like to collect them, others consider it damage.
That is just a guess about what it is, as I said above we'd need to see a picture to know more.
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he never heard of such a 1812 1/2 dollar  Maybe he's confusing it with the 1813 CBHD which doesn't exist... Here's an 1812 Half Dollar: 1812 Capped Bust Half Dollar  (And another shameless plug for the " 32 Days Of Capped Bust half dollars REVISITED" coming on the 1st of December to a Thread near you!)   Edited by Moe145
11/16/2011 7:26 pm
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I am trying to download the pictures but I am having trouble with the image I have uploading properly. Bear with me I am not very computer literate. I might have to get my son to help me.  |
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Canada
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Interesting...well texting didn't exist back then so maybe maybe they sent texts through coins. In this case BRB, Be Right Back. Maybe one exists with ``LOL`` on it  |
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United States
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THAT is cool! It looks like a die clash, (maybe two?) The word appears to not be someone's initials, I think it's the LIBERTY from the obverse head band left on the reverse die after the clash. It also might be a planchet that was struck off center and then recycled back to be minted centered. I, personally, have never seen anything like this!  Either way, NICE! |
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United States
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Looks to me like a case of clashed dies. Occasionally a planchet (blank coin) fails to get in place properly or at all. When there is no blank in place the dies strike each other, sometimes leaving a faint or partial image of one side on the other. Then when coins are struck with that die it is impressed with the additional image from the other side. I think what you are seeing is the "BER" from the word Liberty in the headband on the obverse. I can see lettters in the stripes of the shield as well. I think also from the LIBERTY. Attached is a photo I swipped off ebay of a coin sold recently, an 1814 Bust Half with clashed dies. Below the bust is the image of the "E Pluribus Unum" banner on the reverse.  |
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Pillar of the Community
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 Looks like a die clash and very cool! Member ANA and EAC "You got to lose to know how to win". Dream On by Aerosmith |
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"I can see lettters in the stripes of the shield as well." That is a pretty amazing die clash. Seems like such a clear image would be really hard to fake or produce any other way. |
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United States
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Thank you everyone for taking the time to look at this coin. My mom and dad would not know what to think of this, maybe they knew there was something odd about this coin and that is why they kept it. We will never know reason, just the result that almost 200 years later it is now my treasure. Thank you everyone. Now, any ideas on where to have this authenticated? I really have no one to contact.
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United States
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Aw, that's a huge clash & counterclash. Outstanding. Insane. Furthermore, the dies had to be rotated when it all happened. I'm still wrapping my mind around how it worked, but your pics are plenty clear-enough to show the features as being raised on the coin, proving it happened at the Mint.
This is glorious.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This coin is one that should be sent in to one of the grading services for an attribution. Ed ANA LM-3175 |
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I think it's the LIBERTY from the obverse head band left on the reverse die after the clash. Very nice. |
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United States
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That's the nicest clash I've seen on a CBH! Great find! It definitely looks like BER from LIBERTY both under the shield and in the field next to it. WOW! PCGS will authenticate errors, but you must have a membership with them. If you don't, you can contact me by emailing me through my profile or directly to susan @ coincommunity . com. (without the spaces) |
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