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Bermuda And Falklands, Great Britain Or United Kingdom

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 Posted 11/19/2011  02:41 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add photo123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi All,

For dependent islands of the UK like the Falklands and Bermuda which is more accurate, to file them under United Kingdom or Great Britain.

This two names for one country is confusing

Thanks.
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 Posted 11/19/2011  04:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The "one country" is "the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Island".
The major confusion is probably that some parts of the U.K. field so-called "national" in sporting competitions, such as the Commonwealth Games.
Try telling a Scot that Scotland is not a country, and you'll soon be in trouble. But no-one else sees it that way.
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 Posted 11/19/2011  04:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Three of the four countries that make up the UK have their own national government or assembly - so we certainly see ourselves as Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish. England doesn't have an English parliment - only the UK one at Westminister which governs all four countries, and indeed this is curently the cause of some debate. Only it has tax raising powers etc.

Together, the four countries make (as Peter says) the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Island. The term Great Britain is used to refer to three of the countries - it excludes us here in Northern Ireland.

Although other sundry islands such as the Isle of Man, and the Channel Islands lie close to the UK they are not part of it but are are British dependencies. Indeed the Isle of man is not even in the EU (lucky people...)

The term "British Isles" includes all the Islands and the Republic of Ireland - though the term is not used or really liked by those in the Republic - perhaps understandably so - but it was always a geographicial term, not a political one.

I hope this helps

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 Posted 11/19/2011  05:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I file Falkland Islands coins under "F", and Bermudan coins under "B".

They are separate coin-issuing entities; their coinages may be pegged to the British pound (the Bermudan dollar is actually pegged to the US dollar) but the coins from the dependant states are not legal tender in Britain itself.

As for choosing the short-form name for "the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Island", I personally prefer "Great Britain" rather than "the United Kingdom", because "the United Kingdom" is ambiguous; There have historically been other "United Kingdoms", such as the "United Kingdom of the Netherlands".
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 Posted 11/19/2011  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add photo123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the replies, I am confused more now , politics aside I created it as follows:

-United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
-+Great Britain.
-+Bermuda.
-+Falkland Islands.
-+etc

the alphabetical order will not work, because then I will have 25 main categories(no countries start with x I think).

and will have issues with countries with complex names like Republic of The Gambia.

is it (R)epublic of The Gambia.
or (T)he Gambia.
or simply (G)ambia.
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Most of us simply sort by the list that appears in the Krause world coin catalogue, and in the catalogue, countries with "complex" names are dealt with inconsistently. The Gambia, for example, is filed under "G". But El Salvador (which is Spanish for "The Saviour") is filed under "E".
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Bahrain
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 Posted 11/20/2011  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add photo123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a good idea, thanks sap.
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 Posted 12/13/2011  07:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add satxwd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I collect British coins but also the commonwealth countries. I also like Isle of Man and Gibraltar. I count them as part of my British coin collection.
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 Posted 12/17/2011  09:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add satxwd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Dependant Islands". What is this exactly? I think I understand it but want to make sure I have all of my facts right. Does the British Government in England call all of the shots and draft all of the laws for these "Dependant" places? Or do they just mint their coins?
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There are two main classifications. I've directed you to the two wikipedia pages as they are quite good at covering all the differences between the two types and indeed the differences within those types.

Crown Dependencies

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_Dependencies


and Overseas Territories

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britis..._Territories

Hope this helps
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 Posted 12/17/2011  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add satxwd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks. I'll check these out.
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